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From: Hans Aberg <haberg@math.su.se>
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Features: Scroll wheel/ball, right bar
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:21:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84E1FCA6-4927-43F1-B690-E9FBE34A6E37@math.su.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Ek2kI-0006zC-9a@fencepost.gnu.org>

On 7 Dec 2005, at 18:06, Richard M. Stallman wrote:

> Please try the development Emacs from CVS on savannah.gnu.org
> and see if it handles this.  It does have support for "mouse wheels".

Yes, I will report this to Fink <http://fink.sourceforge.net/>, which  
provided the emacs21 I am using. I think this Fink for Mac OS X (I  
use 10.4.3) is a very convenient install/deinstall system, that any  
causal user can use, which perhaps GNU should have a look at, to  
spread its software even further to users. It serves only as a  
complement to traditional UNIX installs, though. But I found it very  
good that I can quickly take down a binary automatically tailored to  
my computer to check the software out, then move ahead with compiling  
it myself within Fink if I so like, and then perhaps take down a  
latest or CVS version of the program for a traditional home directory  
or /usr/local/ installation. So I might try to compile the CVS  
version later -- CVS works just fine under Mac OS 10.4.3, and I had  
to do that with the Flex version of which only the CVS version would  
compile correctly under BSD. But Mac OS X support for X Window is not  
yet complete, which staves me off a bit.

While at it, there is are also some Mac OS X/Emacs interaction  
issues, which may not belong to Emacs, but might be worth being aware  
of: The Mac OS X X11 xterm/uxterm versions support Mac OS X copy/ 
paste, which Emacs doesn't. One can get around this, by using X  
Window copy/paste into xterm/uxterm, but it is somewhat unnatural.

Second, the Emacs Meta key and the Mac OS X Command key use the same  
keyboard clover key, with the latter having precedence over the  
former if both are in use. The Mac OS X does not have many Command  
keys, so clashes are relatively rare. But when it is happens, it is  
an inconvenience. One can get around this problem by turning off the  
Mac Command key, but again, this is not natural for Mac users. The  
question is though finding a more convenient workaround: Perhaps  
persuading Apple admitting left/right clover be mapped differently,  
to Command/Meta (I may drop them a note). Or perhaps some Emacs hack,  
in the wait, which might be long. :-)

   Hans Aberg

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-07 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-06 17:33 Features: Scroll wheel/ball, right bar Hans Aberg
2005-12-07 17:06 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-07 18:21   ` Hans Aberg [this message]
2005-12-08  4:53     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-08  7:01       ` Hans Aberg

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