From: nyc4bos@aol.com
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: 11205@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#11205: 24.0.95; starttls-use-gnutls no longer being honored
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:03:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <847gxomgpf.fsf@aol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p2d37h1zrw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:04:35 -0400")
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> nyc4bos@aol.com wrote:
>
>> How do I get Gnus (and presumably other Emacs networked programs) to
>> not use GnuTLS when `starttls-use-gnutls' is nil?
>
> etc/NEWS
>
> *** SMTPmail now uses encrypted connections (via STARTTLS) by default
> if the mail server supports them. This uses either built-in GnuTLS
> support, or the starttls.el library. Customize `smtpmail-stream-type'
> to change this.
As my test of an Emacs networked-using package like Gnus, I set my Gnus
variables to ONLY use NNTP, not SMTP (nor any other mail-related
protocols like IMAP)
My Gnus variable are:
(setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news"
(nntp-address "news.gmane.org")
Here is the *Message* buffer demostrating the results:
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) GnuTLS library loaded: libgnutls-28.dll
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) allocating credentials
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) gnutls callbacks
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) gnutls_init
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) got non-default priority string: NORMAL
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) setting the priority string
news.gmane.org certificate could not be verified.
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) certificate signer was not found: news.gmane.org
gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) certificate validation failed: news.gmane.org
news.gmane.org is the newserver (NNTP).
Thus the setting of `smtpmail-stream-type' doesn't apply.
It applies only when SENDING mail (SMTP) when smtpmail.el is loaded
and used.
At least, I don't believe it is loaded/used until I compose a mail or
news message and (perhaps) message.el or something else loads smtpmail.el.
I don't believe customizing `smtpmail-stream-type` helps me in this
situation (not using built-in GnuTLS) unless I'm sending mail or news.
>
>> [Presumably, I can make the GnuTLS DLLs unavailable temporarily to
>> achive this, but setting the variable `starttls-use-gnutls' to nil
>> used to accomplish this, i.e. this is a regression.]
>
> No previous release of Emacs has had built-in GnuTLS support.
That's true, but setting `starttls-use-gnutls' to nil prevented
(external) GnuTLS (gnutls-cli) from being used in released versions
of Emacs.
Therefore, I believe that this is a regression with regards to Emacs 23.x
since GnuTLS (whether built-in or external) is being used when
'starttls-use-gnutls' is nil.
I believe the value of `starttls-program' (openssl, for one exmple of
a user setting this value) should be used instead, regardless of
built-in GnuTLS being compiled in (and its required DLLs being
available), as it used to be in Emacs 23.x.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-10 3:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-09 0:54 bug#11205: 24.0.95; starttls-use-gnutls no longer being honored nyc4bos
2012-04-09 1:04 ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-10 3:03 ` nyc4bos [this message]
2012-04-10 17:43 ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-10 17:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-20 20:07 ` nyc4bos
2012-05-13 19:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-06-10 1:05 ` nyc4bos
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