From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marco Wahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36494: 27.0.50; [Proposition] New option to scroll up regardless of eob Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 15:33:38 +0200 Organization: Marco Wahl Message-ID: <847e8xkjpp.fsf@gmail.com> References: <84ftnmjc37.fsf@gmail.com> <83d0iqaqvh.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="158371"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: marcowahlsoft@gmail.com, 36494@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 04 15:34:18 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hj1sQ-000f4J-6e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 15:34:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46140 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hj1sO-0003Vh-K5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 09:34:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50969) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hj1sC-0003V7-1P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 09:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hj1sA-0005Z1-4G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 09:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hj1s9-0005Yl-Pq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 09:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hj1s9-0001ma-Kn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 09:34:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Marco Wahl Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 13:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36494 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36494-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36494.15622472306834 (code B ref 36494); Thu, 04 Jul 2019 13:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2019 13:33:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50573 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hj1rx-0001mA-LQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 09:33:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-f53.google.com ([209.85.221.53]:38912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hj1rv-0001lw-3l for 36494@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 09:33:47 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-f53.google.com with SMTP id x4so6655831wrt.6 for <36494@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=e/REjC/umZYoo1RPiGkzOgXwR7LtyWAAGJR2h7YxcYo=; b=sHNmCkXe/F60SSc8mWZJ/7dw+2CutPEd49Dc2EQbN/s34QbVyNhq4sy6QDCouid2CS fSD6E3Ksc9Ho7m1EQf3YxFdIgF7oc6BTsJKLZVfzCRR1pac34lhBUTYARj3aM83H89II FQMfcjYx59x39mKxeOrM/57+5m7hOdYiEgOXIZ6nYfR4xdGrrXzXL3k49OKla6BO31fc uxRvvYIXimYe1kfEqX+dM3lPUuX01kHgTife349n1UVL0D/JBNry+kuV7hA3dC+lMEZ+ wAfdPa3cFYhViMN+IAY9A1tjCOuBRvSGEMtRajmsps7iD9aqSt4Kg85drlew3B1fCD7v Ayhg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=e/REjC/umZYoo1RPiGkzOgXwR7LtyWAAGJR2h7YxcYo=; b=JbJEUha4kZGtuUGoQkSdrlO0WzhZ5Nh7mbf0SIFsAboQ/7k6UxvBuFL8radzoD/JWI 7dyLb+XLBxPM/XYDW+nx1KeY7OoDZEFWebKR3Otv2kD4MSbsJe6oZYUTpnnN8zbM25f8 YsuE5E0zjDSddA/4RUe9TbGO9y+1pQKzoKIjI0eokH6JZvF8UgUzdeTM4iGKySUQHYu/ SFrRQJQBVOMwEnO4gWu8FApi6v6/lT1iaVlBpy7ToTFPVLp92Fk6Cg57jvI7a4DLpmqI h6HNk8+G+u8A9KuHaOphuAecUqQgDVtsQ+Spn7j0SR+AHUtcydujRgpeoFID572xH2B/ 3b6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX5RutJVqqbqJoUgt8efG81f6wKgmVKtna+htSCf+1QywsfovVj A3IKnMAs1as+WmGb4kwYbJM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwcKdSOKwbE0TLVhNrwmZ5zyV1m/Br/DvHqpcOPkmU0lUh49DMqzJZxzz3BzWpNCsmh23tLIA== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:53c2:: with SMTP id a2mr13793501wrw.8.1562247221216; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 06:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from tm6592 (p200300ECDF02E4D14D0EA68D36A5A9A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [2003:ec:df02:e4d1:4d0e:a68d:36a5:a9a0]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c9sm2617664wml.41.2019.07.04.06.33.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 04 Jul 2019 06:33:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83d0iqaqvh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2019 16:09:06 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:162053 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: marcowahlsoft@gmail.com >> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 13:03:40 +0200 >> >> Most of the time I find it useful to scroll up in scroll-lock-mode also >> in the case when the end of the buffer is in sight. With this behavior >> it's possible to scroll up until there is literally (almost) nothing >> left in the buffer. >> >> This is in opposition to the current behavior of scroll-lock-mode which >> always switches to forward-line if the end of buffer is in sight. >> >> Find attached a concrete realization. > > How about if we bind S-DOWN and S-UP to commands that scroll to EOB > without introducing any new option? That would mimic pages like Less > which stop at EOB with an unshifted key, but continue scrolling with a > shifted key. That sounds good to me. Also the mimicing of similar features elsewhere.