From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:50:53 +0200 Message-ID: <83zk2exnc2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4B9EFDFEE27E43DBB6331605DD7C2842@us.oracle.com> <50A7DB2C.7050501@cs.ucla.edu> <8339082gig.fsf@gnu.org> <50A7E5AB.3040006@cs.ucla.edu> <83zk2g10ew.fsf@gnu.org> <50A800BD.2@cs.ucla.edu> <83d2zb1rqr.fsf@gnu.org> <50A86FE8.4020203@cs.ucla.edu> <83vcd2zv9o.fsf@gnu.org> <50A93485.9070706@cs.ucla.edu> <83haomzkgc.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353297130 14356 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2012 03:52:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12911@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 19 04:52:21 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TaIPE-0000r0-OI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 04:52:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51251 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaIP4-0002Zn-M3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:52:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaIOz-0002Tj-1z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:52:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaIOv-0002sy-VM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:52:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43630) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaIOv-0002sp-Ro for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:52:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaIPu-0008Ji-9l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:53:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12911 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 12911-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12911.135329715331921 (code B ref 12911); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:53:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2012 03:52:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53878 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaIPQ-0008In-Vs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:52:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:54096) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaIPN-0008Id-Iw for 12911@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:52:30 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MDP00400UJMH900@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 12911@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:51:17 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MDP0041MUPHBO90@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:51:17 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67152 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:44:23 -0500 > > >> There's no reason for Emacs to change its behavior > >> on GNUish hosts. People on these hosts are used to > >> the current behavior with stderr. Any problems > >> in this area are limited to Microsoft platforms, and > >> can be solved in a Microsoft-specific way. > > There are no problems on Windows, either. > > There's clearly a problem: creating a file emacs_backtrace.txt in some > "in your face" directory annoys some users (and I'm sure we can come up > with funny hypothetical scenarios where it leads to serious breakage of > god knows what). > Hence the suggestion to use ~/.emacs.d which is much less "in your face" > and much safer. I'm waiting for this to be implemented on Posix platforms, then.