From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:30:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83zjnatmqf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C0E734.4090403@cs.ucla.edu> <83sita1cbw.fsf@gnu.org> <52C1C456.2080004@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvpa16kh.fsf@gnu.org> <52C25D07.80808@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l91l2t.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4C95C.2010905@cs.ucla.edu> <837gajyrq1.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4F008.5060003@cs.ucla.edu> <83zjnextyg.fsf@gnu.org> <52C5BDD1.2050009@cs.ucla.edu> <83ppoaxfu6.fsf@gnu.org> <52C607DA.3090009@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp5xzk0.fsf@gnu.org> <52C6F2C5.10505@cs.ucla.edu> <83mwjcx1i9.fsf@gnu.org> <52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l4w5pj.fsf@gnu.org> <83ha9jv5lh.fsf@gnu.org> <52C874B2.9010903@cs.ucla.edu> <83eh4nv4j7.fsf@gnu.org> <52C89954.909@cs.ucla.edu> <8361pzum1d.fsf@gnu.org> <52C8EC37.1020201@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388939472 28254 80.91.229.3 (5 Jan 2014 16:31:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 16:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 05 17:31:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzqba-0005aK-Iw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:31:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58459 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzqba-0002B0-7J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 11:31:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44271) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzqbT-0002At-Df for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 11:31:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzqbO-0005Y4-WA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 11:31:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50596) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzqbO-0005XZ-Sk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 11:31:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzqbO-0001D8-62 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 11:31:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 16:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16292 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16292-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16292.13889394524637 (code B ref 16292); Sun, 05 Jan 2014 16:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16292) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2014 16:30:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36382 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzqbE-0001Ci-0x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 11:30:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:40419) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzqbA-0001CU-SH for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 11:30:50 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYX00600SIY9800@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:30:47 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYX006XPSJA1N40@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:30:47 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52C8EC37.1020201@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83002 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 21:23:03 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > There's no expertise involved in "make info". > > Typical Emacs users don't run 'make info'. They might, if they want to make small changes. In any case, as I show in my previous message, the problems are not limited to Texinfo 5 (unlike what I previously thought). > > My suggestion solves more potential problems > > I'm afraid not. Avoiding @documentencoding causes > Texinfo 5 to mishandle UTF-8 characters when generating > formats such as HTML, so that's a non-starter. I didn't propose to make any changes in the HTML targets, they can continue using --enable-encoding. I also didn't suggest to remove @documentencoding; quite the contrary, the fix I suggested is to _add_ such a directive to those manuals that don't have it, but use UTF-8 encoded characters. > And both it and --disable-encoding cause the > regression that Drew noted. That's not an Emacs problem.