From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20105: 25.0.50; Emacs manual, `i HOME RET' sends you to `Moving Point', which is wrong Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 18:15:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83zj7f1rox.fsf@gnu.org> References: <265aed11-7056-45f2-afbf-1b5f8b3b0a05@default> <83egos2df6.fsf@gnu.org> <834mpn38iu.fsf@gnu.org> <9fe72841-fa75-4bbe-bb92-c14e68e0cd7a@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1426349785 827 80.91.229.3 (14 Mar 2015 16:16:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 16:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20105@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 14 17:16:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YWojU-0005iW-LO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:16:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41314 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YWojT-0007ds-Rv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2015 12:16:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38801) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YWojN-0007dm-93 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2015 12:16:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YWojK-0005Hk-3L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2015 12:16:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48180) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YWojJ-0005Hg-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2015 12:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YWojJ-0003be-KO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2015 12:16:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 16:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20105 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20105-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20105.142634972413817 (code B ref 20105); Sat, 14 Mar 2015 16:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20105) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2015 16:15:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46748 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YWoih-0003an-EG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2015 12:15:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:55892) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YWoif-0003ad-3L for 20105@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2015 12:15:22 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NL700500LTEDX00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 20105@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2015 18:13:51 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NL7005WPMF3Q810@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Sat, 14 Mar 2015 18:13:51 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <9fe72841-fa75-4bbe-bb92-c14e68e0cd7a@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:100477 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 20105@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Strange. I have no idea why you see only 2 candidates. I see all 4 > > in both the master and emacs-24 branch. > > I hear you. I don't know why. I'm on Windows 7 64-bit. Other than > that, I don't know what else I can add here. > > But see below. I do have those two missing candidates as explicit > entries in the manual indexes. It is completion that, for some reason, > fails to pick them up. I don't see how you get different behavior, if > we're both using `emacs -Q'. Yes, "emacs -Q" here. And it's not a surprise you have those missing candidates in the index, that's how I can see them ;-) Are you sure you did 'i home TAB' in the latest manual, though? > > > But why is `HOME' capitalized as a candidate if it points to info about > > > the key? > > > > Don't know. Looks like some feature of completion. > > Really? My guess is instead that it comes from this explicit index > entry (which I see in Emacs 24 but not 23): (I removed some whitespace.) > > * HOME: Moving Point. (line 57) By "feature" I meant that it replaces "home" which I typed by "HOME", for whatever reasons. The _only_ reason that I could accept as legitimate is if _all_ completion candidates started with an upper-case "HOME". But that's not what we have here. So it looks like some attempt at being smart is misfiring. > That's from the Key Index. However, note that there are also these > two entries in the Variable Index, which seem not to be used when > I do `i home TAB': > > * HOME: General Variables. (line 59) > * HOSTNAME: General Variables. (line 70) HOME _is_ used, except that completion removes duplicates (I guess). As for HOSTNAME -- why should it be used? I don't see it used here. > >From what I see, the only explicit index entries that include `HOME' > (capitalized) refer to the home directory, not to the key. No, the entry that revers to "Moving Point" is also capitalized.