From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19468: 25.0.50; UI inconveniences with M-. Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:47:33 +0300 Message-ID: <83zj5rszqi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83zja6b3tc.fsf@gnu.org> <54A24079.4020902@yandex.ru> <54A2FF47.6010207@yandex.ru> <54A86135.7080004@yandex.ru> <54A90002.7080009@gmx.at> <54A9C3FB.7000602@yandex.ru> <54AA3881.3080304@gmx.at> <54ABBB47.7010603@yandex.ru> <837fszx7iy.fsf@gnu.org> <83pp6pwqnw.fsf@gnu.org> <553EB74A.4030208@yandex.ru> <553EC300.9030904@yandex.ru> <553EED28.5050902@yandex.ru> <83wq0wuwgd.fsf@gnu.org> <554004B5.1080109@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430322522 27496 80.91.229.3 (29 Apr 2015 15:48:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19468@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 29 17:48:26 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YnUDc-0000Fg-LC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:48:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39768 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnUDc-0003vT-4p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:48:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44443) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnUDX-0003sa-TB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnUDU-00069N-GT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:48:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46563) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnUDU-00069J-DY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YnUDU-0008Hx-4l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:48:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:48:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19468 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19468-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19468.143032246631822 (code B ref 19468); Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:48:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19468) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2015 15:47:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56536 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YnUDB-0008HC-Pn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:47:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:59832) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YnUD8-0008Gs-R0 for 19468@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:47:43 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NNK00K00RNOBJ00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for 19468@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:49:13 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NNK00JAARY1GS20@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:49:13 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <554004B5.1080109@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:102228 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:07:49 +0300 > From: Dmitry Gutov > CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 19468@debbugs.gnu.org > > What alternatives were there, before xref? > > 1. M-x find-function (some even used M-. as its binding). This is limited to ELisp. > 2. C-h comment-forward RET, then click on the file name. This is limited to ELisp and built-in Emacs functions. I was talking about alternatives that can be used as part of the development environment suitable for many programming languages. If the user needs to switch the "find definition" facility each time she changes her project or programming language, it's not a good situation, and therefore such a facility cannot be considered as an alternative to etags (and ID-utils, if we are talking about finding references). > It's easy to generate TAGS for Lisp files, if one needs them. We > describe all that in the user manual. > > Could you point me to the exact section? "(info (emacs) Create Tags Table)"