From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21310: 25.0.50; Alt-[ unavailable until C-x 8 [ used Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:22:18 +0300 Message-ID: <83zj1lhu7p.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440149010 12558 80.91.229.3 (21 Aug 2015 09:23:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:23:30 +0000 (UTC) To: 21310@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 21 11:23:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiXX-0006N8-NJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:23:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40525 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiXW-00047l-Qv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:23:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39366) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiXT-00047Y-U7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:23:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiXO-0006po-Ta for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:23:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41932) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiXO-0006pN-N2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiXO-0001Dv-ET for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 21310 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14401489554661 (code B ref -1); Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Aug 2015 09:22:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiWw-0001D6-C0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:22:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57415) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiWv-0001Cz-0z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:22:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiWt-00065r-Jm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:22:32 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:51010) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiWt-00065f-Gx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39181) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiWs-0003zJ-8K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiWn-00060U-7O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:22:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:33427) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSiWm-0005yj-Vp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:22:25 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NTF00K00DSZNC00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:22:23 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NTF00KIRE1AL850@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:22:23 +0300 (IDT) X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105637 Archived-At: See the subject line: the Alt-[ etc. bindings are not available until you type "C-x 8 [" the first time, or manually load iso-transl. This is because iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map is autoloaded, but the Alt- binding= s are only defined when iso-transl is loaded. I think this is confusing, especially as we now advertise Alt-[ etc. as a means to type curve quotes. Is it possible to autoload the Alt- bindings as well? Or maybe we should simply preload iso-transl? In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.359 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-08-21 on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Repository revision: ff2f35fc478d0047fef4ae3e0b09f43c37961bec Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/d/usr --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs --with-w= ide-int 'CFLAGS=3D-gdwarf-4 -g3 -O0'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1255 Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Mark set A-[ is undefined [2 times] =E2=80=98 (translated from A-[) runs the command self-insert-command Load-path shadows: None found. 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