From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21368: 25.0.50; Core navigation commands fail in a multi-line intangible text with fringe Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:11:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83zj1926tn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r3mnjtzl.fsf@gmail.com> <83r3mn2o44.fsf@gnu.org> <87io7zjclt.fsf@gmail.com> <83oahq36al.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8t9kj51.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440879142 21991 80.91.229.3 (29 Aug 2015 20:12:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 20:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21368@debbugs.gnu.org To: Vitalie Spinu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 29 22:12:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVmTy-0000NI-Uf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 22:12:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54406 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVmTy-00069m-1x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37038) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVmTt-000691-GJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVmTq-00037p-9v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:12:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:50101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVmTq-00037h-6G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVmTp-0001Mh-NE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:12:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 20:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21368 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21368-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21368.14408790905200 (code B ref 21368); Sat, 29 Aug 2015 20:12:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21368) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Aug 2015 20:11:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVmTJ-0001Lo-HP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:11:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:50001) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVmTH-0001Ld-Lj for 21368@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:11:28 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NTV0030019NLV00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for 21368@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:08:18 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NTV00MS319TPY50@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:08:18 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87a8t9kj51.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105962 Archived-At: > From: Vitalie Spinu > Cc: 21368@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 21:08:10 +0200 > > > What is a relatively recent change? The C-b part or the M-x part? > > The M-x part. Aka, invoking `backward-char` from programs. I wonder what change that could be. > > text around. (Btw, yet another solution is to disable line-move-visual in > > these cases -- would that be a good idea in those real-life examples?) > > So the core of the issue is `line-move-visual`? Yes. Without it, previous-line just goes to the previous physical line. With it, Emacs needs to decide where to put point, and that's not easy when invisible text is involved, because we can only put point on some buffer position.