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* bug#31044: 25.3; Memory use explodes splitting email into gnus nnfolders
@ 2018-04-03  8:39 Alexandre Oliva
  2018-04-03 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Alexandre Oliva @ 2018-04-03  8:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 31044


I have some 5 GB of active gnus nnfolder files.  Emacs memory use, in a
fresh -nw remote session, skyrocketed to over 55GB while splitting some
150MB of email.  This happened to me today.

However, this has not been unusual.  Smaller batches of email have often
used up over 20GB of RAM; my poor x200, limited to 8GB of RAM, hasn't
been able to split my mail any more for months; I can't promise this
started with 25.3, it may have been before that, but some older version
of Emacs had little trouble splitting similar aomunts of email onto
pretty much the same set of folders with 8GB, and even 4GB of RAM,
though the latter was already pushing it a longer while ago.

I'm clueless as to how to debug this, or even to identify the source of
such outrageous memory consumption.  All I know is that memory use grows
while gnus is splitting email, keeping multiple unsaved folders open
until the splitting is complete and it goes about saving them all, at
which point memory use goes back down.

While splitting is ongoing, it doesn't look like the working set is that
large, and, given enough swap space, it will complete, slowed down more
by the swapping out of inactive pages than by actually bringing stuff
back in.

Pointers about debugging Emacs memory use while it's active would be
appreciated (interrupting mail splitting in the middle is not such a
great idea).

I'm using a Fedora build of GNU Emacs, if that matters, but I could
build custom versions if that would help.  I can do some Emacs Lisp too,
though not much.

Thanks in advance for any advice,




In GNU Emacs 25.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.19)
 of 2017-09-14 built on buildvm-31.phx2.fedoraproject.org
Windowing system distributor 'Fedora Project', version 11.0.11906000
System Description:	Generic release 27 (Generic)

Configured using:
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Recent messages:
Deleting article 17615 in redhat.tools.team...
Deleting articles...done
Saving file /home/aoliva/.../mail/Mail/nnfolder/redhat/tools/team...
Wrote /home/aoliva/.../mail/Mail/nnfolder/redhat/tools/team
Expiring articles...done
Saving /home/aoliva/.newsrc.eld...
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-- 
Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighter    http://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/
You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi
Be Free! -- http://FSFLA.org/   FSF Latin America board member
Free Software Evangelist|Red Hat Brasil GNU Toolchain Engineer





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* bug#31044: 25.3; Memory use explodes splitting email into gnus nnfolders
  2018-04-03  8:39 bug#31044: 25.3; Memory use explodes splitting email into gnus nnfolders Alexandre Oliva
@ 2018-04-03 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2018-04-04 16:09   ` Alexandre Oliva
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-04-03 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexandre Oliva; +Cc: 31044

> From: Alexandre Oliva <oliva@gnu.org>
> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 05:39:25 -0300
> 
> 
> I have some 5 GB of active gnus nnfolder files.  Emacs memory use, in a
> fresh -nw remote session, skyrocketed to over 55GB while splitting some
> 150MB of email.  This happened to me today.
> 
> However, this has not been unusual.  Smaller batches of email have often
> used up over 20GB of RAM; my poor x200, limited to 8GB of RAM, hasn't
> been able to split my mail any more for months; I can't promise this
> started with 25.3, it may have been before that, but some older version
> of Emacs had little trouble splitting similar aomunts of email onto
> pretty much the same set of folders with 8GB, and even 4GB of RAM,
> though the latter was already pushing it a longer while ago.

Can you try the latest pretest of Emacs 26.1 (it's available from
alpha.gnu), or building the emacs-26 branch of the Emacs Git
repository?  This could be due to some memory related issues that are
supposed to be fixed in Emacs 26.

Thanks.





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* bug#31044: 25.3; Memory use explodes splitting email into gnus nnfolders
  2018-04-03 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2018-04-04 16:09   ` Alexandre Oliva
  2018-04-04 19:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Alexandre Oliva @ 2018-04-04 16:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 31044

On Apr  3, 2018, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> Can you try the latest pretest of Emacs 26.1

Oh, sure, yeah, sorry I didn't think of that.  I grabbed 26.0.91 from
alpha and I'm now pretty sure it fixes the problem.  Yay!  Thanks!

-- 
Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighter    http://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/
You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi
Be Free! -- http://FSFLA.org/   FSF Latin America board member
Free Software Evangelist|Red Hat Brasil GNU Toolchain Engineer





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* bug#31044: 25.3; Memory use explodes splitting email into gnus nnfolders
  2018-04-04 16:09   ` Alexandre Oliva
@ 2018-04-04 19:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-04-04 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexandre Oliva; +Cc: 31044-done

> From: Alexandre Oliva <oliva@gnu.org>
> Cc: 31044@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:09:46 -0300
> 
> On Apr  3, 2018, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> > Can you try the latest pretest of Emacs 26.1
> 
> Oh, sure, yeah, sorry I didn't think of that.  I grabbed 26.0.91 from
> alpha and I'm now pretty sure it fixes the problem.  Yay!  Thanks!

OK, thanks for testing.  I'm therefore closing the bug; feel free to
reopen if the problem comes back.





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