From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38035: 27.0.50; Trivial errors in process filters can render Emacs unusable Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 08:24:01 +0200 Message-ID: <83zhh5a7pa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874kzmdv0q.fsf@gnus.org> <83ftj5hsal.fsf@gnu.org> <87lfswap7q.fsf@gnus.org> <83d0e8j3it.fsf@gnu.org> <87eeyi5cck.fsf@gnus.org> <831ruiay99.fsf@gnu.org> <871rui5bry.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="265206"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 38035@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 09 07:25:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iTKBN-0016rg-QN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 07:25:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35080 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iTKBM-0007tz-9O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:25:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55773) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iTKBD-0007tm-Le for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:25:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTKBC-0000pa-Lm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:25:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39259) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTKBC-0000pQ-Iu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:25:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTKBC-0002cu-DO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:25:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 06:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38035 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38035-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38035.157328066510031 (code B ref 38035); Sat, 09 Nov 2019 06:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38035) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Nov 2019 06:24:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTKAa-0002bi-Oz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:24:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46532) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTKAY-0002bU-GA for 38035@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:24:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36008) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTKAT-0008T0-AF; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:24:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4800 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iTKAL-0006Vh-KU; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:24:10 -0500 In-reply-to: <871rui5bry.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:54:57 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171297 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: rms@gnu.org, 38035@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:54:57 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> But we don't do this with errors that happen in other circumstances -- > >> just the filter errors, I think? > > > > Because reception of process output is not necessarily a frequent > > event, so we want to be sure the user had enough time to see the > > message. > > But why filters in particular? As I said, we don't do this with any > other errors, including run-at-time (which is usually not a frequent > thing at all). Maybe we should do the same with timer functions, indeed. > I'm not pissed off? :-) Sorry. > I just think that Emacs should behave consistently. If doing the same with timers will contribute to that consistency, I don't object. I just think that we shouldn't remove an old feature because of a single accident that should be quite rare.