From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40762: closed (Re: bug#40762: UI screws up Ubuntu 18.04) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 10:54:48 +0300 Message-ID: <83zh6h3kqf.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30921"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 40762@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pearson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 26 09:56:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAqHx-0007uS-Of for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:56:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33938 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAqHw-0003Mw-MV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 03:56:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56476) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAqHq-0003LP-AF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 03:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53953) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAqHp-0003NJ-Tv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 03:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kAqHp-00005j-Sl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 03:56:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 07:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40762 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 40762-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40762.159842851132744 (code B ref 40762); Wed, 26 Aug 2020 07:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40762) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Aug 2020 07:55:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37266 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kAqH1-0008W3-Cz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 03:55:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46108) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kAqGz-0008Vo-Pr for 40762@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 03:55:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55741) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAqGu-00036e-46; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 03:55:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2794 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kAqGs-0004Pw-DZ; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 03:55:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Robert Pearson on Wed, 26 Aug 2020 01:52:46 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:186403 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pearson > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 01:52:46 -0400 > > Emacs should use ncurses for the text-mode frames, but the default is > > to start a GUI frame, where curses is not relevant at all. > > > > So I don't think I understand the nature of your problems. > > The problem is "Emacs should" and "So I don't think I understand the nature of your problems". > The second is obviously true. The first is the difference between "Emacs should" and "Emacs does". So in your case, Emacs starts in text mode? That is, it opens its display in the same window as the shell from which you invoked Emacs? A GUI frame (a.k.a. "window") is a separate window, and it includes such GUI elements as menu, tool bar (a row of buttons with small icons on them), and vertical scroll bar. Is that what you see?