From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#47677: [PATCH] condition-case success continuation Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 10:35:07 +0300 Message-ID: <83zgxmlsus.fsf@gnu.org> References: <219007D9-0FD0-4AC2-A8B0-24A0FC277AE8@acm.org> <87lf9nzy48.fsf@gnus.org> <87F315E7-7F8A-46C5-A71B-F090F067D0B8@acm.org> <87sg3uskgt.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgy1qkni.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39692"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: mattiase@acm.org, larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 47677@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 25 09:36:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1laZJJ-000AC7-PE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 09:36:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40546 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1laZJI-0007E8-T2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:36:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33458) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1laZJC-0007Dx-0a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58599) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1laZJB-0002M2-PS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:36:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1laZJB-0008Qu-M2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:36:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 07:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47677 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 47677-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47677.161933614332390 (code B ref 47677); Sun, 25 Apr 2021 07:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 47677) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2021 07:35:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41912 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1laZIs-0008QM-QU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:35:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53356) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1laZIq-0008Q8-Py for 47677@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:35:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33810) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1laZIk-00023Y-LV; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:35:34 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4954 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1laZId-0005bK-OU; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:35:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Sun, 25 Apr 2021 00:44:23 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:204848 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 00:44:23 -0400 > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > 47677@debbugs.gnu.org > > Hold your horses! That is not the way to look at a adding complexity > to a basic Lisp construct. > > Every additional feature added to a fundamental construct increases > the complexity of the Lisp language. That always has various kinds of > cost whether it is used or not. Since this added feature would rarely > be of use, it would have cost and no benefit. FTR: I agree with you. However, sadly this seems to be a minority opinion in the current Emacs development: features are added to Emacs Lisp left, right and center without any serious consideration of the of the costs and benefits balance. The pressure to add features to Emacs Lisp is enormous. It sometimes seems to me that some people regard developing and extending Emacs Lisp to be the most important aspects of the Emacs development.