From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50880: Add "Contributing to Emacs" help command (see C-h C-h) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 13:17:45 +0300 Message-ID: <83zgrtdp6e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8735pndfna.fsf@gnus.org> <878rzf9xtk.fsf@gnus.org> <25d8d72022560012a303@heytings.org> <87a6jtw6ki.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11355"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gregory@heytings.org, stefan@marxist.se, 50880@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 12:19:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mWFdK-0002n7-4i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 12:19:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54770 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWFdI-0003RC-HD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 06:19:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46072) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWFd9-0003Qd-P7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 06:19:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWFd8-00031E-2l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 06:19:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWFd7-0000fQ-T6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 06:19:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 10:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50880 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 50880-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50880.16330834942506 (code B ref 50880); Fri, 01 Oct 2021 10:19:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2021 10:18:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54751 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWFcM-0000eM-Fz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 06:18:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40708) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWFcK-0000e9-FJ for 50880@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 06:18:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42286) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWFcD-0002Cd-FV; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 06:18:06 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4762 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWFcB-0005v1-M2; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 06:18:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87a6jtw6ki.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:24:45 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216016 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:24:45 +0200 > Cc: Gregory Heytings , 50880@debbugs.gnu.org > > Stefan Kangas writes: > > >> What was wrong with > >> > >> C-h g -> About the GNU project > >> C-h G -> Emacs copying permission (GNU General Public License) > >> C-h C-c -> Contributing > > > > IMO the best proposal so far, but Lars didn't want to move the GPL > > from 'C-h C-c' so that part unfortunately makes it a non-starter. > > I'm not dead set against it -- it's not like these are commands that > people use heavily. But that cuts the other way, too -- making this new > command mnemonic isn't really that important, either, since I'd assume > that people would be accessing them via `C-h C-h' and then paging down, > entering whatever key it says they should use. I.e., nobody's > remembering these keystrokes anyway. > > Perhaps Eli has an opinion here? How about not giving it a key binding at all? Why is a key binding important in this case? It's not like people will want to read that section twice a day. > >> Also, I would put "Contributing to Emacs" in the first subsection of > >> "Miscellaneous", after "Debugging Emacs", where it belongs. Which by the > >> way makes me wonder why Emacs TODO is not there, too. It would perhaps be > >> even better to create a third subsection with > >> > >> C-p Known problems > >> C-d Debugging Emacs > >> ? Contributing to Emacs > >> C-t Emacs TODO > > > > Good idea, I like it. > > Me too. Which part? If this is about the manual organization, I fail to see what's wrong with the current one, where Contributing is a chapter -- you don't get any more prominent than that.