From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60006: 28.2; C-h f reports wrong version Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:10:21 +0200 Message-ID: <83zgbsr736.fsf@gnu.org> References: <16614.1670852552@localhost> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33022"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 60006@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ikumi Keita Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 12 16:11:33 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p4kSq-0008N8-EU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 16:11:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4kSO-0002pE-4L; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:11:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4kSM-0002oI-IJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4kSM-0006vd-AM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p4kSL-00082U-St for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:11:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 15:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60006 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 60006-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60006.167085783130891 (code B ref 60006); Mon, 12 Dec 2022 15:11:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2022 15:10:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53552 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p4kRq-00082B-QY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:10:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54730) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p4kRo-000825-Gr for 60006@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:10:29 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4kRh-0006oy-IQ; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:10:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=0g66XKrpyUZqrjiAZ8w5ZNXp9ny5TvpBu8ku7fawLv0=; b=KFfb8o3PjHz9 9z1wosuAH1/9FOMncpXqhTXgw/BIPGcZwW2aT8narIHR2prhM1vJJ2LFJAhtN8luC7+Jmt5UxALnj WF2R32k2/ZlgcPDLznXhRnu4nnKxo3/pUW9i8zWTOk+8N3JJV2jR6M5KP2Yfy1eIgkC3G2sVMyvtZ 7L4QULJ8AJEGWTW+MvG+x2V99oqOprYKFhUFAVfxekOo+7ouostjQ30uS5Qg3oipCZu9GRf8vRQgc ONrk+EnxYlIeJsZtVryCQbWWPr/j31L7az84JK7juPF3gSOBlwt16LzCq6CjCyxV/YogOgx7OFpyK 6HrbKfW+CgZPqddNO+JhYw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4kRf-0000VV-OW; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:10:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: <16614.1670852552@localhost> (message from Ikumi Keita on Mon, 12 Dec 2022 22:42:32 +0900) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:250711 Archived-At: > From: Ikumi Keita > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 22:42:32 +0900 > > C-h f reports wrong version when `always' was introduced. > > [How to reproduce] > 1. emacs-28.2 -Q > 2. Type C-h f always RET > 3. Then *Help* buffer says: > Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 1.1. That's why it says "Probably". The method of finding out the first release where the symbol appeared is a heuristic, and it can sometimes fail in ridiculous ways.