From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#66706: [PATCH] Automatic elisp dialect insertion Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 09:35:42 +0300 Message-ID: <83zg05how1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <17C83052-7946-45DE-B660-DA7EB82001B0@gmail.com> <83sf61mb54.fsf@gnu.org> <98CD592C-0E82-4795-8168-2B5E597FF7A7@gmail.com> <8334xzlvy9.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8avjuv8.fsf@gnu.org> <87edhicjgi.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4557"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, mattias.engdegard@gmail.com, 66706@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 26 08:36:51 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qvtz7-0000y7-Ef for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 08:36:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvtys-0005QI-Kq; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:36:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvtyp-0005Pt-IP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:36:31 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvtyp-0003Ab-Ar for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:36:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvtzJ-0005be-Kt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:37:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 06:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66706 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 66706-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66706.169830218621504 (code B ref 66706); Thu, 26 Oct 2023 06:37:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 66706) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2023 06:36:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60472 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvtyk-0005am-6X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:36:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55630) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvtyi-0005aS-IX for 66706@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:36:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvty7-00036H-48; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:35:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=rhnFOhupRuFEZKEnqNnKMAi7u3D/YuyI2FnCWDMVB4A=; b=ZqRckcSQ1lRp FvHuoetAu1uUFrklxcTn2NQ6c1EMMpfS+5jfxN1PbNgZLjXj4G60byGeihtx/rZdz+bHFfKIthV1g kwCIAbKV6om8zT5hj6kvk+wCZYdRcs1JK1i+v+Zq6QQHn+B2C1cfshK6GnGXG7CF8oT8EAXMkgfj+ cJ/TIl8IMDtRHofd1hWykz5hCzAJoOp2m1/I5aTSZBAy5nZhoWQ/jZzEnnLygIayTVMALeLPWfha5 iH13yykNb2BrZGzbozGqpV7k/PJ4A7x56i7uH3ET1FtOJEXw+jw/+/ty063cavwOuQA3d2VWxfYU1 6WQWWPrGy3uYd3jtDHB5ZQ==; In-Reply-To: <87edhicjgi.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:31:57 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:273244 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii , > mattias.engdegard@gmail.com, 66706@debbugs.gnu.org, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:31:57 +0200 > > Dmitry Gutov writes: > > > There will be such users, but their number will likely be lower than > > some might expect, simply because the lexical dialect very much > > resembles how programs are written in other languages these days. > > Short version of my reply: Emacs users are a different group than Elisp > package developers. Let's help them by forcing a lexical binding cookie > in the config file instead of simply making their Emacs potentially not > starting up. If this is about init files, we could instead make processing init files assume lexical-binding by default.