From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9219: 24.0.50; bidi switches to R-to-L when I don't want it to Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:02:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83y5z9op5f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r555vtmr.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <83ipqhaqnt.fsf@gnu.org> <87ei14vr61.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <83fwlkc2en.fsf@gnu.org> <87oc08sutd.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <838vrcbjwb.fsf@gnu.org> <87wreu2uuf.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <831ux2p9nf.fsf@gnu.org> <87k4au2pbp.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312427078 18066 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2011 03:04:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 03:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9219@debbugs.gnu.org To: Florian Beck Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 05:04:31 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QooEZ-0007cq-0h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:04:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43920 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QooEY-0007lc-QK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:04:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QooEV-0007lI-W4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:04:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QooEU-000501-Po for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:04:27 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QooEU-0004zx-LZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QooF4-0006Vu-TR; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:05:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9219 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9219-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9219.131242708925017 (code B ref 9219); Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9219) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2011 03:04:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QooEq-0006VR-FU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:04:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QooEm-0006VE-4W for 9219@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:04:45 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LPD00500UUXCW00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 9219@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:04:05 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.94.185]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LPD004N7V6SXHK0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:04:05 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87k4au2pbp.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:05:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49893 Archived-At: > From: Florian Beck > Cc: Florian Beck , 9219@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:49:14 +0200 > > >> A|Mabcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd > >> abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd > >> abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd > >> abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd abcd > > > > Sorry, still no dice... > > Sigh. The only thing I omitted was > > (setq cursor-type 'bar) A bar cursor is drawn on the right side of R2L characters, but on the left side of L2R characters. Is this what confused you? > Turns out that is essential. > > I did check the recipe, but I didn't restart emacs. Sorry for the > confusion So I think you only _think_ you have the LRM character between the aleph and the following a, because the bar cursor makes a small movement when you move from aleph to the a, but is shown between aleph and a in both positions. In fact, the LRM is to the left of aleph, you should be able to see that if you modify LRM's entry in glyphless-char-display-control. > (but the cursor movement in rtl paragraphs confuses me, too). It takes some time to get used to. The manual says something vague about it, like "don't be afraid, it's not a bug" or something.