From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 17168@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17168: 24.3.50; Segfault at mark_object
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 19:59:29 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y4zi75se.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <534182C3.30205@dancol.org>
> Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 09:37:23 -0700
> From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
> CC: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, dmantipov@yandex.ru, 17168@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > Because Richard has been using that machine for years, and I very much
> > doubt that he changed his usage patterns lately.
>
> Richard's not the only one who has seen this crash. Drew's also reported
> GC crashes in odd, and different, places.
Which seem unrelated, and started much later than Richard reported
his.
> >>>>> In http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15583#23, Richard
> >>>>> provided the last good revno (113938) and the first bad one (114268);
> >>>>> I looked at that range of revisions, and 114156 looks relevant. How
> >>>>> about if we revert it and see if the problems go away?
> >>>>
> >>>> The bug would still be there, and we'd have no way to tell whether your
> >>>> proposed change actually reduced its occurrence to a tolerable level.
> >>>> Why would you want to do that instead of just fixing the bug?
> >>>
> >>> Because it's simpler,
> >>
> >> It's easy to make code that's simple and wrong.
> >
> > I didn't suggest any new code.
>
> No: you're just suggesting leaving incorrect code in Emacs.
It's not incorrect, AFAIU. It might be less optimal.
> >>> and because it just might be that the bug was
> >>> caused by that other changeset.
> >>
> >> How might that changeset in particular have caused the problem reports?
> >
> > It is related to calling a function, and is in the same function from
> > which all the recent crashes started.
>
> You haven't identified a causal mechanism. Any recent change could have
> caused enough of a shift in code generation or stack layout to cause
> this problem, and because it manifests so seldom, it'd be hard to verify
> that reverting any particular change "fixed" the problem.
I thought you had a test case. If not, how did you verify that your
suggested changes do fix the problem?
> Also, eval_sub does *everything*. It's no surprise that we saw the
> crashes there. That's like saying "all crashes are associated with main,
> this change affects main, and therefore this change is responsible."
The change is related to calling a function whose symbol has certain
properties. That sounds related to me, not just a random change
somewhere in eval_sub.
Anyway, it was just an idea which I thought would be easy to try.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-06 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-02 7:44 bug#17168: 24.3.50; Segfault at mark_object Nicolas Richard
2014-04-02 15:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 17:59 ` Nicolas Richard
2014-04-02 16:29 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-02 19:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 20:33 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 20:57 ` Nicolas Richard
2014-04-02 21:50 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-03 0:28 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 20:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-02 20:40 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-02 20:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-03 6:59 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-03 7:04 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-03 7:55 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-03 9:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-03 14:03 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-03 15:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-03 16:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-03 17:49 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-03 17:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-03 19:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-03 19:22 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-05 22:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 5:05 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-06 5:11 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 18:00 ` Richard Stallman
2014-04-06 18:10 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-07 7:49 ` martin rudalics
2014-04-07 8:18 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-07 9:20 ` martin rudalics
2014-04-06 12:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-06 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-06 15:59 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-06 16:24 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 16:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-06 16:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-04-06 17:11 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 19:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-06 19:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-06 15:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-06 20:13 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 20:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 21:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-06 21:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-07 16:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-07 19:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-07 20:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-08 7:14 ` martin rudalics
2014-04-08 8:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-04-06 18:01 ` Richard Stallman
2014-04-06 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-07 16:56 ` Richard Stallman
2014-04-02 20:49 ` Nicolas Richard
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