From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24597: 25.1; Fonts used by default in Info Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 21:26:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83y425nvb7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837f9ppfz5.fsf@gnu.org> <3d8c3427-b5da-4d88-a0de-044bec367b34@default> <8337kdpci2.fsf@gnu.org> <372bcff5-1612-4bf9-ab95-a63ba5dcec9b@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1475519841 25564 195.159.176.226 (3 Oct 2016 18:37:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24597@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams , Nicolas Petton Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 20:37:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1br871-0005wK-An for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 20:37:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38645 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1br870-0001Rj-0D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:37:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1br7xC-00024E-0f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1br7x7-0005MI-Oz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:37095) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1br7x7-0005M9-LO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:27:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1br7x7-0000qk-Gy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:27:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 18:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24597 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24597-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24597.14755191823183 (code B ref 24597); Mon, 03 Oct 2016 18:27:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24597) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2016 18:26:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43285 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1br7wT-0000pH-OF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:26:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45503) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1br7wS-0000oy-40 for 24597@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:26:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1br7wI-0004rL-Vw for 24597@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:26:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34904) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1br7wI-0004qi-So; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:26:10 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1966 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1br7wG-0004s1-P2; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:26:09 -0400 In-reply-to: <372bcff5-1612-4bf9-ab95-a63ba5dcec9b@default> (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:53:34 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123974 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:53:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 24597@debbugs.gnu.org > > > I believe we don't specify Courier, it's just what Emacs picks up on a > > typical Windows machine when we ask for a "Monospace Serif" font. See > > the definition of the Info-quoted face in info.el. > > Hm. What I see is that we specify the "courier" family, not that we ask > for a "Monospace Serif" font: > > (defface Info-quoted '((t :family "courier")) > "Face used for quoted elements.") That's strange: it's "courier" in 25.1, but the release branch says fixed-pitch-serif, and the change was in May, so should have been in the released Emacs 25.1. Nicolas, can you shed some light on this? > I know nothing about such things, but it seems odd that MS Windows > creates font Courier New, and seems to use it by default quite a bit, > and yet we tell it to use family "courier", and it ends up using > font Courier (if available), not Courier New. It chooses the first font that satisfies the request. > [I'd suggest using two fonts that are more different, by default. > For one thing, that would make clear to users that a face is involved. That's what we do, except that this somehow didn't get into Emacs 25.1.