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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 27270@debbugs.gnu.org, v.schneidermann@gmail.com,
	npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
Subject: bug#27270: display-raw-bytes-as-hex generates ambiguous output for Emacs strings
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 21:59:56 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y3t271ar.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93d9c575-4eb2-ea9e-d998-a8f3cff33a1e@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Thu, 8 Jun 2017 09:24:56 -0700)

> Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 27270@debbugs.gnu.org,
>  v.schneidermann@gmail.com
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 09:24:56 -0700
> 
> >> "\x905"
> >>
> >> which is the wrong string visually.
> > How is that different from "\2205" you get under the default settings?
> 
> When I cut and paste "\2205" into another Emacs, it evaluates to the 
> same two-character string that I started off with because octal escapes 
> are limited to 3 octal digits.

That's a different issue.  You said "\x905" was wrong visually, so I
asked how is that different, visually, from "\2205".

> When I cut and paste "\x905" I get a 
> one-character string because there is no limit to the length of 
> hexadecimal escapes. This is a problem, because cut-and-paste should 
> continue to copy text accurately even when I'm using terminal windows.

Same thing happens when you copy/paste from an Emacs window which uses
a display table: the pasted string will be different from the original
one.  I believe I already pointed that out in this discussion.

> >> "\x80\ 5"
> >>
> >> or via some other means.
> > We do use "some other means": the raw byte has a different face.
> 
> That doesn't help when --color=no is specified, or in terminal sessions 
> that do not support colors.

In those cases, the octal notation has the same visual problems.

> I prefer monochrome anyway. So this ambiguity will be a real pain
> for me.

I still don't understand how this is different from the octal
notation, but if it is, you can always stay with the default octal
display.  That's what I do.





  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-08 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-07  3:57 bug#27270: display-raw-bytes-as-hex generates ambiguous output for Emacs strings Paul Eggert
2017-06-07  5:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-08  0:49   ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08  1:07     ` npostavs
2017-06-08 15:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-08 15:56       ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08 16:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-08 16:24           ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08 18:59             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-06-08 19:43               ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08 19:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-08 20:35                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-09  6:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-09 23:44                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-10  7:24                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-11  0:04                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-11 14:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-11 17:26                               ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-02 13:25                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-23 14:00                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-24  7:10                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-24  9:56                             ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2022-04-24 10:26                               ` Andreas Schwab
2022-04-24 10:51                                 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2022-04-24 11:01                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2022-04-24 11:29                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-24 22:46                               ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-24 11:24                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-24 22:35                               ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-25  7:40                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-25 16:49                                   ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-26 10:06                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-26 16:48                                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-27 12:13                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-27 17:21                                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-27 17:22                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 17:58                                               ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-10 22:52         ` npostavs
2017-06-11  0:10           ` Paul Eggert

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