From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44611: Prefix arg for xref-goto-xref Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 17:42:33 +0200 Message-ID: <83y2hlnb86.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k0up68e4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <99772eb6-5a4e-7cf6-259d-0e9429e6bf97@yandex.ru> <878sb3n0a9.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <48f942f9-a557-0185-25fe-612e78cd9071@yandex.ru> <875z67gd6z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <72e9e5e9-651f-401f-2e26-faaac1b7fdb5@yandex.ru> <87v9cxleff.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <834kkhtaxm.fsf@gnu.org> <874kkgswg2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83v9cwsct7.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0tab3y0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83pn31rg5a.fsf@gnu.org> <877dp9ycq6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837dp8r250.fsf@gnu.org> <4a0c8870-e2e7-97c7-5808-afa704ebee13@yandex.ru> <83mty4pj0u.fsf@gnu.org> <878s9o1ck2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837dp7q3hi.fsf@gnu.org> <2e07d6d1-5a83-77c3-7915-8efa46fd47c3@yandex.ru> <83h7oanxoi.fsf@gnu.org> <834kkanh8c.fsf@gnu.org> <189506b0-deeb-5ff3-c129-b083268a3cf3@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25395"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: juri@linkov.net, joaotavora@gmail.com, 44611@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 25 16:43:08 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kspFE-0006VS-Ph for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:43:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40504 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kspFD-0000g8-O8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:43:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33370) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kspF8-0000g0-9y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; 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Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:43:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40204) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kspF4-0007Dx-BB for 44611@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:42:59 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42637) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kspEy-0005Dw-Cj; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:42:52 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1325 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kspEx-0001Z4-Ll; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:42:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <189506b0-deeb-5ff3-c129-b083268a3cf3@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:49:39 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:196704 Archived-At: > Cc: juri@linkov.net, joaotavora@gmail.com, 44611@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:49:39 +0200 > > >> Changing the latter to use the xref UI (which will have to be renamed > >> and become a separate package, BTW) is also likely to encounter much > >> bigger resistance than anything we've done in this area before: people > >> don't have the same expectations for new commands as they have for > >> existing ones, so I'm surprised you asked this (given your overall > >> backward compatibility stance, much stronger than mine). > > > > An optional feature cannot hurt, even if and when it becomes the > > default. Thus, there's no need for me to object to such long-term > > plans, if they are announced and proceed at a controlled pace > > (including the decision when it becomes the default). > > This endeavor might need more of an encouragement than "I don't object". I didn't have encouragement in mind. I'm asking if this is the plan, or some kind of desire. If it is, then I can understand that. If there's no such plan, then I don't think I understand why we need to make Xref behave similarly and have the same key bindings.