From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46926: Remove the quotes from highlighted/linked symbols when displaying docs Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 20:36:13 +0200 Message-ID: <83y2f2zrz6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8335xa25wy.fsf@gnu.org> <_H0XqIXt1dfP3H0t7B5ffiqUQfbMsO6VjonudikF85OIm5y8BWOkrXn4_dedZzvdxv4o5Ug2rhFkFqAqNuS9-XIKRsSy2P4IBrBE5QMtK9I=@protonmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17078"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 46926@debbugs.gnu.org To: scame Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 04 19:37:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lHsqf-0004Kv-4H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 19:37:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45360 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHsqd-00082Q-Vx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 13:37:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHsqM-000812-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 13:37:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48655) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHsqM-0004mM-IG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 13:37:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lHsqM-0004Fc-GK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 13:37:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46926 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46926-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46926.161488300316311 (code B ref 46926); Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46926) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2021 18:36:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60201 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lHsq3-0004F1-Hi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 13:36:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46248) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lHsq1-0004Eo-CH for 46926@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 13:36:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38624) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lHspv-0004ei-Ir; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 13:36:35 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4459 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lHspq-0003NO-Oz; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 13:36:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: <_H0XqIXt1dfP3H0t7B5ffiqUQfbMsO6VjonudikF85OIm5y8BWOkrXn4_dedZzvdxv4o5Ug2rhFkFqAqNuS9-XIKRsSy2P4IBrBE5QMtK9I=@protonmail.com> (message from scame on Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:50:27 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:201437 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:50:27 +0000 > From: scame > Cc: "46926@debbugs.gnu.org" <46926@debbugs.gnu.org> > > > > > Help buffers do, but where did you see that in Info? Can you show an > > example? > > Info does not link, but highlight symbols. By "highlight", do you mean the special face we use there? If so, that's not highlighting. > BTW, why symbols in info are not linked to their index entries? > E.g. the user could press Enter on a highlighted symbol to quickly > look it up. Why isn't this a thing? I believe this was discussed recently. But it's a different issue; the Info manuals provide cross-references where the author thought they are needed. > > I disagree. The quotes indicate that it's a symbol, the link face > > indicates that we have more information about that symbol elsewhere. > > These are two orthogonal indications, so they complete each other, not > > contradict. > > Well, is this a symbol? Example from Elisp info: > > ‘(DISPLAY PLIST)’ > > or > > ‘(:foreground "red" :weight bold)’ How is this related to the issue at hand? > These have the face Info-quoted like quoted symbols in Info. So the face > indicates this is a quoted entity (not necessarily a symbol). We could discuss whether the face alone is enough in Info. My personal opinion is that it isn't enough: the face we use there doesn't guarantee any highlighting, because the user could customize the face to be anything but. > If we have a face Info-quoted then there is no need for the quotes, because > the quotes are only text markups which are translated to a face, so the quoted > part is highlighted for the user, there is no point in leaving the markup there. I don't think I agree, but maybe someone else will have an opinion? And what about Help buffers?