From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53916: 29.0.50; pgtk: Gtk-WARNING with popup menu Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 10:10:42 +0200 Message-ID: <83y22hsu0t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k0e357ds.fsf@gmx.net> <87iltmyl6d.fsf@yahoo.com> <87czju3l3g.fsf@gmail.com> <87tud6x2ze.fsf@yahoo.com> <83a6eytyb7.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmnuw74z.fsf@yahoo.com> <8335kpuazo.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6exvp8i.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17630"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 53916@debbugs.gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 11 09:38:21 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nIRRc-0004Qk-IF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:38:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36464 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nIRRb-0002Oq-FH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:38:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60234) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nIR1C-0005uQ-Lx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:11:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nIR1C-0005uy-5c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nIR1C-000110-1w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:11:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 08:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53916 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 53916-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53916.16445670543887 (code B ref 53916); Fri, 11 Feb 2022 08:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53916) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2022 08:10:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58175 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nIR14-00010d-D2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:10:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nIR12-00010Q-VL for 53916@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:10:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=46934 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nIR0x-0005om-Ev; Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:10:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=wnwhpE06WveV5mAlMpc5Fuf6XCsOW58j3O1ydQSwGf0=; b=b2jR6NOS3hNt 8pEVYk0M/emCUIxprbpuSMdQyyLJU7g0f3Ui9QC7It4BRrhIe3ErSAmFo7MgbNsuUu2Z8GBnNQGCu 0hQupcYz74LjGlDOrIicPSiiba6JizIn7uzMCo18F64RMOjbBorqqWUp25g4duVn2S6g5ktpTu1tt +nu1SVWpPtZIoSYXs856WDGKc1M2s1877Zxcv3riSzaGjDYELkuFdYdZcp5Uq6TJ6br/rVNHNNmpy /L4yOMJ09rCLE6eE55vV/FCV4qoCefu6UnOdq8lokGrjIUtqWQ++2f1YT5soAuNAxGPgehS08PoyN pFFEncMYnzasjb/oEZrZAw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2635 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nIR0w-0000a3-UL; Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:10:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87a6exvp8i.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:25:49 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:226653 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 53916@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:25:49 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Why confusing? We already have in Emacs 28 and later a buffer named > > *Async-native-compile-log* that "suddenly appears" as soon as Emacs > > needs for the first time to natively-compile a Lisp file. How is this > > case different? > > That one is a log of things Emacs is doing, while this one usually > appears without context, and could contain scary error messages from > various different libraries. I don't see the crucial difference. >From my POV, having GTK messages in *Messages* will make debugging Emacs's own problems harder. Some redisplay problems are only visible in *Messages* (because we cannot signal an error), and having the buffer filled up by irrelevant GTK stuff will make reading the messages harder, and could even make the important messages disappear, if the GTK stuff overflows message-log-max. So I really prefer a separate buffer.