From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62009: 29.0.60; Emacs crashes on setf symbol-name Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:49:04 +0200 Message-ID: <83y1o4zv0v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o7p5of4n.fsf@daniel-mendler.de> <871qm01s6n.fsf@web.de> <9fcf05e8-506c-6566-e214-2ecf3194b85e@daniel-mendler.de> <83bkl45ul4.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8j9zl3i.fsf@posteo.net> <83a60l13p2.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilf9571k.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22582"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, mail@daniel-mendler.de, philipk@posteo.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 62009@debbugs.gnu.org To: Augusto Stoffel Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 10 12:50:09 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pabGC-0005dJ-Vm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 12:50:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pabG8-0007VV-Sv; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 06:50:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pabG6-0007TN-H6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 06:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pabG6-0006sy-7h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 06:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pabG5-0004ta-RH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 06:50:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 11:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62009-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62009.167844897218760 (code B ref 62009); Fri, 10 Mar 2023 11:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62009) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2023 11:49:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53882 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pabFc-0004sW-3e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 06:49:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32990) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pabFa-0004sF-Dr for 62009@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 06:49:30 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pabFT-0006ma-Og; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 06:49:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=2t1X6GvDj2QV49uwcTjHTFv48CO4HBs9UjwU/h1KEtI=; b=l56Re7/u9kVZ qFs6fxaqRHHrq26JJNa4YzQpXcAsBwKza0ljatXFptou0s8Z9AHcwNUdDQfmmTftClkAL7QwOU7GQ ja/tDZJHayT2urKA0CSivYX2eA+kOnbUSaGOOL0blzkVBeDOj6CP453hXLAkcxIkivHc1zyR4z75q jnH9ytRKcDWTTIlSgX0o4M5B3a/clc37M/0gfGmbx8N/Zbqk1be8wcb7MbexXYbsQVTY+6cJaxG1+ L1hUtJa5jpYHdfywRQxT+Kqs7p7lYdF5lyClJcQL3ktFVBjRupoiY11s7HorFwbG8Mpx8aQ2uv/JZ 0/PHewDuC79nF7urKGP2fA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pabFT-00020N-7E; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 06:49:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ilf9571k.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Augusto Stoffel on Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:45:11 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:257676 Archived-At: > From: Augusto Stoffel > Cc: Philip Kaludercic , michael_heerdegen@web.de, > mail@daniel-mendler.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 62009@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:45:11 +0100 > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 at 09:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> Is it not possible to detect this before the illegal memory access, and > >> raise a signal in Emacs Lisp? > > > > It won't be easy, if at all possible. And I'm not sure we even want > > to do that. What would be the purpose of supporting such a use of > > Emacs? > > What is the purpose of supporting mutation of symbol names in general? We don't. Whoever does this is on their own.