From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63497: [PATCH] Remove obsolete information on archiving mail from Gnus manual Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 09:08:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83y1lkua2s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835y8px5ci.fsf@gnu.org> <871qjd6tou.fsf@ust.hk> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5465"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 63497@debbugs.gnu.org, jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de, cohen@andy.bu.edu To: Andrew Cohen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 19 08:09:29 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pztIt-0001CP-Vp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 May 2023 08:09:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pztIp-0002Ch-Lg; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:09:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pztIU-0002AH-RO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:09:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pztIT-0004H0-Sy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pztIT-0005qR-Ny for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:09:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 06:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63497 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 63497-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63497.168447653422454 (code B ref 63497); Fri, 19 May 2023 06:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63497) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2023 06:08:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55195 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pztIL-0005q5-RO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:08:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43928) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pztIJ-0005pr-Ff for 63497@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:08:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pztID-0004FT-0w; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:08:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=sf1FZV1pCQOHds1A6tEs2AzfzNzTXSG7swFdE+eFh2k=; b=pBGxVGCbWvIt 0R0D0KBFn/1s5xBNHmk8nCZL/yXAYiYX3mYnN+BQwxu56MxgvI1IrAAjDE9QpAuAHPftM3p3U+n63 ypl/NppS3DnJ74qsd2VTbQ8NTRNtEc8Y9FsjB1y10phMJRkLzzzmfNg3Badi69kGhplSogL8MQ4tM FENmQPwF92z9tgPHe76JxiO6oGCeG2rpwupaH3Z2RWV99Wdow9nvE1WpCBGiHxuQbb/o4PmONWcQm 18tRn6qsC/eOgYFUAPRElv4z9GMyz7U2d9qVoPPnDiPDXW2Acvgay7ABmsrKn+t7H0/qbDv3Ch2H0 Rvpg45uIWFymswxCOwYxAg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pztIC-0005Yq-H9; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:08:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871qjd6tou.fsf@ust.hk> (message from Andrew Cohen on Fri, 19 May 2023 08:39:13 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:261975 Archived-At: > From: Andrew Cohen > Cc: Jens Schmidt , Andrew G Cohen > , 63497@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 08:39:13 +0800 > > > [...] > > >> The Gnus manual still references these external marks in section > >> "Archiving Mails", I guess that reference just got overlooked. > >> But without external marks, archiving mails in Gnus is rather > >> difficult (to my knowledge), at least for the nnml backend. So I > >> decided to rather remove that section entirely. > > EZ> Andrew, should these parts be removed, indeed? > > Yes, I think it should be removed. As Jens says, the purpose of this section was to > indicate that group marks are stored in the filesystem for these > backends, so saving these marks doesn't require doing anything other > than copying the files. But the marks are no longer stored in the > filesystem, so the whole section is moot. (As an irrelevant aside, for > some strange reason its under the "Browsing the Web" topic, which is why > I have never looked at it) OK, thanks. Jens, would you please rework the patch according to my comments, and re-post?