From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#66706: [PATCH] Automatic elisp dialect insertion Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 10:32:47 +0300 Message-ID: <83y1foed0g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <17C83052-7946-45DE-B660-DA7EB82001B0@gmail.com> <83sf61mb54.fsf@gnu.org> <98CD592C-0E82-4795-8168-2B5E597FF7A7@gmail.com> <8334xzlvy9.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8avjuv8.fsf@gnu.org> <87edhicjgi.fsf@web.de> <83zg05how1.fsf@gnu.org> <87pm10sqnw.fsf@web.de> <8334xwfuo1.fsf@gnu.org> <87fs1wil3w.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, mattias.engdegard@gmail.com, 66706@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 27 09:33:37 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qwHLc-0002lj-PF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 09:33:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qwHLY-0002E5-43; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 03:33:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qwHLX-0002Dp-2a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 03:33:31 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qwHLW-0007l2-Qq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 03:33:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwHM1-0005sO-Nu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 03:34:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 07:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66706 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 66706-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66706.169839199522531 (code B ref 66706); Fri, 27 Oct 2023 07:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 66706) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Oct 2023 07:33:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35010 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwHLG-0005rJ-T7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 03:33:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46004) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwHLF-0005r6-9T for 66706@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 03:33:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qwHKd-00077w-De; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 03:32:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=b5qQEKdRmjUAtsVkpBNrz3kQuG8Ptg0TubnvDDpzEIo=; b=FaT9c33NoSNr Kwhctn80jCXZFN18wMdQYrc+TE8zgDTZLKOSjFLIhPexNVS6G1Bq+lHrKfbRa/eAejsVoM79yn3fb JnGqFtroHfeiwQufZpLXtoetH0PuVAlcR+l3EHfBMrSx1FGIczqGYa9g4ILQUcnWgXyVUCDTwCqXU W7+14L13S3j7wdp93MrcUMsKEuZCOZK0pO19jdLIBfT81zOu2LcCVKf5tcaHUoiGEm6td2c9WkXX0 b2F0+J3swuQ2+RZ4RCDfU4JBnIryDtpxxMVgipDrW69mq6A5daJHPuT4dw0wHfwjh26jt53gytMfl kL3KQ2PjmCu2U+z/WCO20Q==; In-Reply-To: <87fs1wil3w.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Fri, 27 Oct 2023 09:24:19 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:273346 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, mattias.engdegard@gmail.com, 66706@debbugs.gnu.org, > stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 09:24:19 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Your point seems to be incompatible with our plan, which is to turn on > > lexical-binding by default at some point. We don't want to have a > > schism of two separate flavors of Lisp, we want only one. The current > > situation is a transitional period, not the ideal. You seem to be > > suggesting that we should keep this situation forever, and that is not > > what we decided, AFAIU. > > No, I don't think you fully understand. I only want to help the users > with the transition. I don't think it will help. I guess we disagree about that.