From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67639: Description of the variable message-mail-user-agent in Emacs 29.1 Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 16:33:16 +0200 Message-ID: <83y1e84t3n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <559d556ef47c13fe772d392923a0db18@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33984"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 67639@debbugs.gnu.org To: rameiko87@posteo.net Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 05 15:35:13 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rAWW1-0008X4-Gu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 15:35:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAWVl-00047R-UM; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 09:34:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAWVg-00045a-2A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 09:34:52 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAWVf-0006LG-Qd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 09:34:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAWVq-0007vB-CL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 09:35:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67639 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 67639-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67639.170178685230350 (code B ref 67639); Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67639) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2023 14:34:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36802 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAWV1-0007tP-O8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 09:34:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41962) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAWUz-0007t7-H9; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 09:34:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAWUh-0006Bw-3A; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 09:33:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=kKq2JkxkOl1laWv+JFHffRz8kTrQnREyd7qNqA7J7Qc=; b=KlwV1JtDjUJ0ezED9QEy r0PLL2mxWTSjcEgCUM9YAUzKToKeo4gDe3thK2LAlRjs92nqGAuiquWEyCl1/gi1t91vfG7JNL3/w PNFziw95JzlRQiliMx9N3Kj81RKBl+smpUqJ1Epbd6+maPi+umVZtd4W9pSqUPpBslF4gNC4YgWCn gNN3L6D7hEcYpQhnWE6kMSKGyIw33+WuQOCB5kamBRNz6d+DQh4Mjf6W7SI7V0bzkj24wk3f92wrI Okaz1Sa7D89/VMktmLzo6UJgo6xhjSWZN01NzXQlMXAoCSmi+d9UxCVq38YAUltt0r/Er95kgNUps l9LglZtmCp/5AA==; In-Reply-To: <559d556ef47c13fe772d392923a0db18@posteo.net> (rameiko87@posteo.net) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:275569 Archived-At: merge 67639 67638 close 67638 thanks > Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2023 23:27:37 +0000 > From: rameiko87@posteo.net > > I would appreciate clarifying this variable. > > I have difficulties understanding what the variable > message-mail-user-agent means and what the options mean. The description > for this variable doesn't help: > > > Like ‘mail-user-agent’. > I don't know what this sentence means. > > > Except if it is nil, use Gnus native MUA; if it is t, use > > ‘mail-user-agent’. > Please remove Except from the beginning of the sentence, because > non-native English speakers like myself think that "Except if it is nil" > means "Whenever not nil". It may be correct, but it's confusing to some > people. Perhaps the confusion arises because there's a full stop rather > than a comma. > > If the except links the sentence to the one above, then why write "if it > is t, use ‘mail-user-agent’ ", which is a repetition at this point? Now > it looks from the description like there should be two options, but > instead there's five. > > I'm totally at loss! This is an exact duplicate of bug#67638, so I'm now closing both as fixed.