From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8789: 23.3; debug backtrace buffer changes window on step-through Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:52:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83wqzoxvri.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4F3CB843.6030401@gmx.at> <4F3D41DD.6080603@gmx.at> <877gzmqwcf.fsf@web.de> <504B4940.9000809@gmx.at> <86wqzznwzv.fsf@web.de> <9BABA419184241F5A7246DC5D9A9EF81@us.oracle.com> <5057A4A3.4010100@gmx.at> <4617F483F2CC446D980DF7194E06BB3A@us.oracle.com> <50581E7F.3040108@gmx.at> <1C1E224E1D674670BEE043B4A35A271F@us.oracle.com> <5059FC9C.8020702@gmx.at> <2D8C133406A54B26AD253EC7EE52C666@us.oracle.com> <505B1F26.20209@gmx.at> <87ehlwzklr.fsf@web.de> <505B51AD.2080908@gmx.at> <91FFA03F2A7341A09E280DD2BCC4A428@us.oracle.com> <83392czgvc.fsf@gnu.org> <87vcf8fnz3.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348174417 16956 80.91.229.3 (20 Sep 2012 20:53:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 8789@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 20 22:53:39 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TEnkg-0000Sh-MW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:53:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35516 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEnkc-0002NR-B1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEnkZ-0002Ho-4Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:53:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEnkX-0002s3-Tr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:53:31 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36128) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEnkX-0002ry-Pr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:53:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TEnm2-0003gl-2n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:55:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8789 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8789-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8789.134817446714135 (code B ref 8789); Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8789) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2012 20:54:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45674 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TEnlS-0003fv-Ot for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:54:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:56545) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TEnlQ-0003fn-V5 for 8789@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:54:25 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MAO00M001U1MX00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 8789@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:51:47 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MAO00MCQ1YBM820@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:51:47 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64658 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:34:07 -0700 > > 3. But I also think that it should be enough, for this problematic mode line > enhancement, to simply call a duplicate of `file-remote-p' and not > `file-remote-p' itself, which is used by all kinds of code. > > If that duplicate (e.g., `mode-line-file-remote-p') is called only by the > mode-line code then that should greatly reduce, if not eliminate, this problem > for the debugger. This has 2 problems, at least: . what if I need to debug mode-line-file-remote-p? . what about calling Lisp from display features other than the mode line, such as tool-bar buttons and menu items? In general, I think this is a slippery slope: before long we will be duplicating many important functions, and we will have to enforce some kind of coding standards whereby redisplay features cannot call "ordinary" functions. I think this is absurd.