From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17408: 24.4.50; tooltips make ms-window go top Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 17:47:02 +0300 Message-ID: <83wqe0xoyh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <536794D9.9000406@poczta.onet.pl> <53679DFE.1020804@poczta.onet.pl> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1399413895 27760 80.91.229.3 (6 May 2014 22:04:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 22:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17408@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jarek Czekalski Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 07 00:04:48 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WhnS5-00038f-2B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2014 00:03:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57823 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WhKBm-000730-J6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 10:48:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52638) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WhKBe-00072S-LS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 10:48:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WhKBW-0008Eg-Ob for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 10:48:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WhKBW-0008Ea-L4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 10:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WhKBW-00072o-5V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 10:48:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 14:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17408-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17408.139930122926990 (code B ref 17408); Mon, 05 May 2014 14:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17408) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2014 14:47:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51810 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WhKAd-00071C-Sd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 10:47:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:50527) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WhKAb-00070g-EG for 17408@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 10:47:06 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N5300N00VA9LT00@mtaout24.012.net.il> for 17408@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 17:44:32 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N5300NIKVM7KD10@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Mon, 05 May 2014 17:44:32 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <53679DFE.1020804@poczta.onet.pl> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:88670 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 16:19:42 +0200 > From: Jarek Czekalski > > > I > > frequently work with Emacs windows that are in the background, and > > have "focus follows mouse" set so that I could type into such windows. > > And you would miss the tooltip so much? :) Tooltips are a legitimate part of working with a frame. I don't think my personal preferences count in this matter. > > So I don't see how your suggestion could > > be implemented in practice. > > My suggestion was to check whether the window is active right before > displaying the tooltip. If the window is not active, the tooltip gets > not displayed. Maybe the tooltip should still be displayed if "focus > follows mouse" is set. What does that mean in practice? How to determine whether a window "is active" when it accepts Windows messages? > I don't see how this messes with your Emacs usage. Also don't know yet > if it's feasible. But that's just a preliminary suggestion. If it gets > accepted, it may be the simplest way to help the issue. I'd have to see the details to make up my mind.