From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: 13949@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13949: 24.4.1; `fill-paragraph' should not always put the buffer as modified
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:51:35 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wponyfko.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a8ljakw3.fsf@wanadoo.es> (message from Óscar Fuentes on Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:30:36 +0200)
> From: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> Cc: 13949@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:30:36 +0200
>
> It occurred to me at least two times to use M-q on comments on some C++
> header, see no changes, proceed with other edits elsewhere on the
> project, and much later do `C-x s ! M-x compile' and see how the build
> compiled files that shouldn't be affected by my edits, which, apart from
> the waste of time on the extended build, caused more time to be wasted
> on investigating the cause. Since I aware of the problem, if I use M-q
> on a source file, I need to use `C-x s d' to see a diff and, if the diff
> is empty, use undo to restore the modified flag.
You are describing what I consider to be a minor annoyance. I agree
it's an annoyance, and I agree it would be good to have an option to
prevent that, I'm just saying the annoyance is minor.
> >> And so far there is zero evidence that this change could cause
> >> undesired effects.
> >
> > That's irrelevant. It would be irresponsible for us to change such
> > basic aspects of Emacs operation at this point in Emacs history. We
> > have been burnt with much less significant backward-incompatible
> > changes.
>
> This is a recipe for changing *nothing* that is older than some
> threshold, isn't it?
No, only those aspects that are very basic, like text properties being
an integral part of buffer text.
> And we are talking about fill-paragraph here, not about some core
> data structure.
I wasn't talking about fill-paragraph, I was talking about deciding
that changes in text properties aren't considered buffer
modifications.
> Apart from the fact that marking the buffer as modified when text
> properties are changed is wrong in principle (otherwise, why don't
> mark as modified the file-visiting buffers as soon as some text
> properties are applied when the major/minor modes are enabled?)
I think you are only considering face properties. But text properties
can be something entirely different. I gave 2 examples before, here's
another, perhaps more relevant one: the 'fill-space' and 'hard'
properties that are directly involved in text filling.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-27 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-13 22:09 bug#13949: 24.3.50; `fill-paragraph' should not always put the buffer as modified Dani Moncayo
2013-03-14 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 7:57 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-03-14 10:27 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-14 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-14 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 18:34 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-14 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 19:01 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-14 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 19:32 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-15 4:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-15 7:27 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-03-14 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 18:34 ` Dani Moncayo
2016-03-22 10:50 ` bug#13949: 24.4.1; " Jaakov
2016-03-22 11:39 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-22 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 17:40 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 17:56 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-03-22 18:07 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-22 18:23 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-03-22 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 18:42 ` Jaakov
2016-03-26 23:46 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-27 3:31 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 7:44 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-27 15:09 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-28 8:01 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-27 8:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-27 14:59 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:15 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-27 15:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 18:53 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-27 15:13 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-27 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 15:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 15:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 16:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 16:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 16:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 16:58 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 18:22 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-27 15:29 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 16:05 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 16:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 16:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 17:30 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-03-27 16:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 17:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 16:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 15:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 16:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 16:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 10:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 11:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 11:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 11:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 13:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 15:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 15:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 15:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-28 16:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 17:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 17:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 8:09 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-27 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 15:35 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 15:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 20:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 21:05 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 21:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 22:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 15:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 15:50 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 20:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 21:36 ` Jaakov
2016-03-27 16:08 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 17:52 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 18:40 ` bug#13949: (no subject) Jaakov
2016-03-22 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 19:07 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 19:53 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 21:58 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 22:38 ` Glenn Morris
2016-03-23 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-23 17:45 ` Jaakov
2016-03-26 23:33 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-23 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 23:44 ` bug#13949: `fill-paragraph' should not always put the buffer as modified Petros Travioli
2016-03-28 4:55 ` bug#13949: fill-paragraph is buggy, but using MD5 is even more buggy Petros Travioli
2016-03-28 10:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-28 13:29 ` bug#13949: Aw: " Petros Travioli
2016-03-28 14:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-28 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 15:16 ` Petros Travioli
2016-03-28 17:05 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 19:03 ` Petros Travioli
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