From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23251: 25.0.92; M-< and M-> don't work with Croatian keyboard Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 18:21:28 +0300 Message-ID: <83wpo0dxmv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83a8l2ivxn.fsf@gnu.org> <83zit2gpd7.fsf@gnu.org> <20160410192754.GA11548@math.berkeley.edu> <20160410194605.GA11948@math.berkeley.edu> <20160414053713.GA29979@math.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460647414 6707 80.91.229.3 (14 Apr 2016 15:23:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23251@debbugs.gnu.org, jjezina@hotmail.com To: Ilya Zakharevich Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 14 17:23:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj6z-0007kC-1t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 17:23:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41642 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj6v-0006Cu-5S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:23:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj6q-00069i-BC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:23:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj6k-0000bj-Ey for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:23:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:51364) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj6k-0000be-Ar for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj6k-0005eN-6w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23251 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23251-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23251.146064732321620 (code B ref 23251); Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23251) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Apr 2016 15:22:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35467 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj5n-0005ce-FQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39116) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj5l-0005cA-N8 for 23251@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj5c-0000QC-Sv for 23251@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:21:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50613) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj5c-0000Q8-PF; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:21:52 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1139 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aqj5c-0001Hg-1R; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:21:52 -0400 In-reply-to: <20160414053713.GA29979@math.berkeley.edu> (message from Ilya Zakharevich on Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:37:13 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116458 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:37:13 -0700 > From: Ilya Zakharevich > Cc: Josko , 23251@debbugs.gnu.org > > This creates a significant mess if one wants to allow using the > secondary locations with Alt modifier (for example, to generate Meta-; > by Alt-AltGr-;). It does not look like a small workaround is possible > (which does not break OTHER usage scenarios). > > Ilya > > P.S. I know a medium-sized workaround which would improve OTHER cases > as well. But it cannot be ready in a day or two!] Thanks for looking into this. Is it possible to devise a simple work-around that would depend on some optional variable? The work-around doesn't need to handle all usage scenarios, just allow using a particular keyboard layout with reasonable results (e.g., it could break usage of some other layouts). If such work-around is possible, I think we should consider it for the upcoming Emacs 25.1 as a temporary stopgap.