From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23478: 25.0.93; Mouse region selection asymmetry Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:48:12 +0300 Message-ID: <83wpkxjsxf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878tzky2oe.fsf@gmx.net> <83eg9cecy2.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpn4wgev.fsf@gmx.net> <8360uoe5ye.fsf@gnu.org> <87shxswd5s.fsf@gmx.net> <834ma8e3ll.fsf@gnu.org> <871t3bhbpz.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87poqun63w.fsf@gmx.net> <83furqratc.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9c6mkb0.fsf@gmx.net> <83vb0mp1ok.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpl17pvs.fsf@gmx.net> <83eg79pi29.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn2d736k.fsf@gmx.net> <83furongms.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3b6btyi.fsf@gmx.net> <83poqqli77.fsf@gnu.org> <878txd7irj.fsf@gmx.net> <8360shlb4d.fsf@gnu.org> <874m8176zx.fsf@gmx.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467910180 31578 80.91.229.3 (7 Jul 2016 16:49:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 16:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23478@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 18:49:28 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCUQ-00009L-B7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:49:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41239 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCUP-0001ON-L3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:49:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCU5-0001En-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:49:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCU1-0003XS-QH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:49:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57330) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCU1-0003XO-N0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:49:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCU1-0002tP-Ib for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:49:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23478 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 23478-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23478.146791011711087 (code B ref 23478); Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23478) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 16:48:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41434 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCTc-0002sl-Ou for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:48:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40925) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCTb-0002sY-0V for 23478@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:48:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCTS-0003QP-Jr for 23478@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:48:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCTS-0003Q8-Gi; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:48:26 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1981 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCTQ-0008Tb-Kg; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:48:25 -0400 In-reply-to: <874m8176zx.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:22:42 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:120580 Archived-At: > From: Stephen Berman > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 23478@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:22:42 +0200 > > What do you understand by "selection backward"? mouse-select-region-backward can be interpreted as "mouse selects region backward". > My intention was to indicate that this variable controls selecting > the region when you double-click at region-end But "region-end" doesn't appear in the name. How about mouse-select-region-at-region-end ? > >> One somewhat embarassing aspect of describing this option is that is > >> makes the default asymmetrical behavior painfully obvious without > >> providing a rationale for it (and I don't know of any). I suppose we > >> could add "for historical reasons" after "by default".... > > > > I don't think it's needed: since point doesn't move, no scrolling > > should be expected. > > What's not needed: the phrase "for historical reasons", a rationale for > the asymmetrical behavior, or any description of the user option? In > other words, are you saying the doc changes in the patch are acceptable? The rationale is not needed, IMO.