From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24849: Is Emacs put in idle mode when window is not focused? Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 22:13:11 +0200 Message-ID: <83wpgnm014.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83oa1znpah.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478031280 19038 195.159.176.226 (1 Nov 2016 20:14:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24849@debbugs.gnu.org To: Johan Andersson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 01 21:14:36 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fRi-0001sC-Pv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 21:14:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fRl-0006S8-HH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:14:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43019) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fRe-0006Rq-OB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:14:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fRa-0005X3-Lq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52250) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fRa-0005Ww-Hj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fRa-0002cT-64 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 20:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24849 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24849-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24849.147803120710020 (code B ref 24849); Tue, 01 Nov 2016 20:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24849) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2016 20:13:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39416 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fQx-0002bS-R1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:13:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51902) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fQw-0002bD-K3 for 24849@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:13:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fQn-0005Dv-GG for 24849@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:13:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44987) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fQn-0005Dr-CW; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:13:13 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4372 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fQk-0004mT-Le; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:13:13 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Johan Andersson on Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:48:59 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125236 Archived-At: > From: Johan Andersson > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:48:59 +0100 > Cc: 24849@debbugs.gnu.org > > (let* ((default-directory "/tmp") > (process (start-process "server" nil "python" "-m" "SimpleHTTPServer" "8000"))) > (set-process-filter > process > (lambda (_ output) > ;; ... > ))) > > What happens in practice is that, when I get to work, I select the services I need and start them (unless > Emacs was killed, they are already started). Sometimes I use Emacs quite frequently and then this is not so > much of an issue because Emacs does not have time to idle. But when I don't use Emacs for a while, it will > hang waiting for the response from the service (because Emacs is idle). So you are saying that the service, which is a sub-process of Emacs, produces some output, but Emacs doesn't read that output timely enough because it's idle? That's not possible, I think: when Emacs is idle, it is most of the time stuck inside a call to 'pselect', which should return immediately when some input arrived from a sub-process. So I guess I still don't understand something in your setup. But what?