From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25890: `color-values` gives wrong value Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 15:32:58 +0200 Message-ID: <83wpbxdzp1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zih7n2yt.fsf@pank.eu> <83a88tfv4a.fsf@gnu.org> <83zigteb5d.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489152856 25707 195.159.176.226 (10 Mar 2017 13:34:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25890@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@yo.eki.do To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 10 14:34:10 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKgK-000616-PX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:34:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39142 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKgQ-0000M8-Ti for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:34:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53791) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKgH-0000Lz-TJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:34:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKgD-0006LI-TJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:34:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:50424) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKgD-0006LC-Qo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:34:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKgD-0006yU-LD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:34:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25890 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 25890-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25890.148915281826780 (code B ref 25890); Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25890) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2017 13:33:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48623 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKfn-0006xo-4S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:33:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34383) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKfh-0006xW-Rp for 25890@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:33:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKfX-00064q-Vp for 25890@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:33:24 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47233) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKfX-00064m-Sa; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:33:19 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4028 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cmKfX-0000DN-08; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:33:19 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 10 Mar 2017 12:07:18 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130435 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: "mail\@yo.eki.do" , 25890@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 12:07:18 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I'm open to alternative ideas for how to solve the original bug in a > > less intrusive way. I just don't think defaulting to 2 would be such > > an alternative, because the underlying issues are very subtle, and if > > we continue using 2 as the default, users of that function will never > > discover that they need to use 4. But maybe there are other ways that > > leave everyone more happy. > > The normal way to introduce incompatible changes like this is to > introduce a new function and mark the old function as obsolete, isn't > it? (Then remove the old function in about ten years time. :-)) I asked about that in https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25525#68, but no one answered. The disadvantage would be that those packages need to change their code anyway, now or in "ten years time". If that's deemed a better way, I can do it.