From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26599: patch for mwheel.el Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 09:47:43 +0300 Message-ID: <83wpa5m3jk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83fuguo9uk.fsf@gnu.org> <20170427.142731.404498627.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> <83d1bynd19.fsf@gnu.org> <20170428.081600.165500065.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1493362153 26276 195.159.176.226 (28 Apr 2017 06:49:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 06:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 26599@debbugs.gnu.org To: Tak Kunihiro Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 28 08:49:07 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d3ziF-0006hq-1i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 08:49:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35434 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d3ziK-00079c-Oq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 02:49:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41337) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d3ziE-00079W-JV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 02:49:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d3ziA-0006fe-JT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 02:49:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45324) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d3ziA-0006fZ-8H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 02:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d3ziA-0002CY-3U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 02:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 06:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26599 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26599-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26599.14933621098383 (code B ref 26599); Fri, 28 Apr 2017 06:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2017 06:48:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43523 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d3zhc-0002B8-Ps for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 02:48:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50155) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d3zhb-0002Ao-Kp for 26599@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 02:48:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d3zhS-0006OH-7r for 26599@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 02:48:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55288) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d3zhS-0006OC-3u; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 02:48:18 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2476 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1d3zhR-0003bb-AZ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 02:48:17 -0400 In-reply-to: <20170428.081600.165500065.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> (message from Tak Kunihiro on Fri, 28 Apr 2017 08:16:00 +0900 (JST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:132068 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 08:16:00 +0900 (JST) > Cc: 26599@debbugs.gnu.org, tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp > From: Tak Kunihiro > > >> Keyboard is the primary scroll device. Thus I want to turn > >> auto-hscroll-mode t by default. > >> > >> Occasionally I want to use mouse as scroll device. When I use mouse, > >> I want to set turn auto-hscroll-mode nil, especially after > >> implementation of and . > >> > >> When I come back to keyboard, I want to set auto-hscroll-mode t again. > > > > This looks like a very specialized use case, so I'm not sure we need a > > solution for it in Emacs. > > I see how you see. > > How I described, is similar to how spreadsheet program reacts. It > lets user scroll both by and . > > I very often edit a buffer with long and short line (for example, > LaTeX table), using mouse and keyboard. However, as you infer, this > can be already very special. What makes this special is that you want Emacs to work differently depending on the input device. Emacs normally makes a significant effort in the other direction: to produce the same behavior no matter where input came from. I'm not sure we want to have such unusual behavior as part of Emacs.