From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28403: 25.2; find-tag works, but xref-find-definitions Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:58:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83wp4vgx0t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <201709092240.v89MeFUo014854@psr.com> <201709100250.v8A2o6nL015568@psr.com> <837ex6vd83.fsf@gnu.org> <83k216t0wp.fsf@gnu.org> <835dc374-4846-0cb6-9fd6-ddef93711a37@yandex.ru> <838thlthx9.fsf@gnu.org> <0464c886-bd32-7252-7820-50e00e7fa0c7@yandex.ru> <83poauobqv.fsf@gnu.org> <48b2816b-6fa5-bb3e-14e3-fff85d4fbc14@yandex.ru> <83zi9xmcec.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1505793551 17945 195.159.176.226 (19 Sep 2017 03:59:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 03:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wbe@psr.com, 28403@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 19 05:59:06 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1du9gf-0004P5-6k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 05:59:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39920 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1du9gm-0006Ja-MO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:59:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50544) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1du9gg-0006JA-KJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1du9gc-0004wB-OE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:38432) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1du9gc-0004vy-K9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1du9gc-0008Cw-D8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:59:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 03:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28403 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28403-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28403.150579351431502 (code B ref 28403); Tue, 19 Sep 2017 03:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28403) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2017 03:58:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47113 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1du9gA-0008C2-6G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:58:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59469) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1du9g8-0008Bn-1L for 28403@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:58:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1du9fy-0004Hh-Qr for 28403@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:58:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34311) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1du9fy-0004HZ-NK; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:58:22 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1234 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1du9fx-0005U5-R9; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:58:22 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 19 Sep 2017 03:44:28 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:137105 Archived-At: > Cc: wbe@psr.com, 28403@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 03:44:28 +0300 > > On 9/14/17 8:13 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I just feel that having a user-friendly defcustom would be more > > future-proof. Like I said: it's a fire escape. Every complex feature > > needs one. > > My point is if we document it enough for the majority of the users to > find it, it would also make it more likely that they go the fire escape > route instead of using etags in the right way. And then get some other > wrong impression about xref-find-definitions. Fire escapes don't have to be documented, just pointed out when and if someone really needs them.