From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28609: simple.el Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 11:12:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83wp4g4nb0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <> <<838tgx8xpa.fsf@gnu.org>> <0fe74dd5-598d-47c0-b734-221170345be7@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506759250 27576 195.159.176.226 (30 Sep 2017 08:14:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 08:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Hacker2017@jovi.net, 28609@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 30 10:14:04 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCuR-0006dq-Ke for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:14:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38497 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCuY-00049v-M3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCuT-00049p-LA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCuQ-0003VM-Fp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59502) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCuQ-0003VH-Cg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCuQ-0000Ui-3W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 08:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28609 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28609-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28609.15067591871827 (code B ref 28609); Sat, 30 Sep 2017 08:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28609) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2017 08:13:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39950 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCtW-0000TP-Ng for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:13:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49533) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCtV-0000Sw-9c for 28609@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:13:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCtM-00033i-Tk for 28609@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:13:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCtM-00033a-Pc; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:12:56 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1838 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dyCtM-0000tW-9a; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:12:56 -0400 In-reply-to: <0fe74dd5-598d-47c0-b734-221170345be7@default> (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:30:40 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:137668 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:30:40 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 28609@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Finally, a nit: "Point position" is inherently ambiguous, so it's > > better to use "Position of point" to disambiguate. I made that change > > in a followup commit. > > Apologies for not reading the thread. Going only by what is written > here, which might not be fair/appropriate, "position of point" is > also ill-advised. "Point" is the buffer position of the cursor > (text-insertion position). "Position of point" would then mean > "position of position of the cursor". "Point" is Emacs terminology (and its definition in Glossary is not "position of the cursor"). Since it's a widely-used term, I see no need to replace "point" with its definition to judge that sentence's grammar or style. We use "position of point" in our manuals, and I see no problem with that usage.