From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30530: 26.0; Emacs manual: mention (1) user-reserved keys, (2) users can bind any keys Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 07:32:31 +0200 Message-ID: <83woyvvy8g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<> <83lgfi4qw2.fsf@gnu.org>> <529ae5d2-b5e8-40d1-aaa6-87a76003b8bc@default> <83h8q62sgd.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<<87zi3y13jf.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>>> <<<83d10nyf4y.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<92c8fd97-8e96-4e2b-8706-f5ca97869912@default>> <<831sh3y51x.fsf@gnu.org>> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1519968679 28755 195.159.176.226 (2 Mar 2018 05:31:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 05:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 30530@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 02 06:31:15 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1erdHi-0006ZY-GP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 06:31:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60889 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erdJk-0005M1-ST for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 00:33:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33699) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erdJZ-0005LN-4u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 00:33:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erdJW-0006ES-1Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 00:33:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:60352) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erdJV-0006EI-Uq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 00:33:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1erdJV-0001mk-MW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 00:33:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 05:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30530 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 30530-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30530.15199687516820 (code B ref 30530); Fri, 02 Mar 2018 05:33:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30530) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2018 05:32:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40016 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1erdJ1-0001lw-7f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 00:32:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42646) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1erdIy-0001lj-LC for 30530@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 00:32:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erdIq-000642-9l for 30530@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 00:32:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40079) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erdIq-00063w-6O; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 00:32:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1411 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1erdIp-0005vG-Kj; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 00:32:20 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 1 Mar 2018 13:00:37 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:143822 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 13:00:37 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, 30530@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > The Emacs doc makes clear that these keys are reserved for users. > > > > Being reserved means that users can bind them. > > You keep repeating that, but it has never been in question. You are questioning that, by insisting that no document can suggest binding those keys. > We can perhaps agree to disagree about that, as well as > perhaps about the likely result of users, particularly > newbies, following that Org-doc recommendation. I started by saying I disagreed with your opinion. It's you who decided to respond. > The Org doc does not need to recommend that users bind > reserved user keys to Org commands, and doing so is (IMHO) > unhelpful to users. > > Just one opinion, of course. Once again, I disagree, and thing that any documentation of any package can suggest binding those keys. That's what those keys are reserved for.