From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 17:38:02 +0200 Message-ID: <83woabjig5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83eewln7fi.fsf@gnu.org> <874kxgqapm.fsf@web.de> <834kxflukh.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgkzq20t.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="249436"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 38802@debbugs.gnu.org To: Samuel Wales Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 01 16:38:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1img4Y-0012kG-Tw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 16:38:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59283 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1img4X-0005Um-Lx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:38:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1img4S-0005UU-1q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:38:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1img4Q-0003TJ-4e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:38:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59652) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1img4Q-0003Se-0x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:38:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1img4P-0000co-Uu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:38:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 15:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38802 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38802-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38802.15778930772392 (code B ref 38802); Wed, 01 Jan 2020 15:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2020 15:37:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37392 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1img4K-0000cW-SO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:37:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49682) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1img4J-0000cE-5E for 38802@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:37:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37547) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1img4D-0002hk-Qj; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:37:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1649 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1img4D-0003Z0-AD; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:37:49 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Samuel Wales on Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:39:37 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:174039 Archived-At: > From: Samuel Wales > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:39:37 -0700 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 38802@debbugs.gnu.org > > i will try to post a screenshot next time. it could be quite a long time. That's OK. If this problem happens to others, they might come up with data sooner; if not, it means the problem is rare enough for it not to be urgent. Btw, if you can afford that, I'd suggest to upgrade to a newer version of Emacs, because perhaps this problem was already solved. The current version is 26.3, and 27.1 will start its pretest soon. > any suggestions of what to put in for a sigusr1 or sigusr2 would be > interesting. I'd suggest to use debug-on-event. You can read about it in the ELisp manual, node "Error Debugging".