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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, esabof@gmail.com, 14582@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#14582: 24.3.50.1; Strange overlay behavior, when window-start is inside an overlay.
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2022 15:47:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wni4up6g.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875ypor90e.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Wed, 09 Feb 2022 04:53:05 +0100)

> From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org,  esabof@gmail.com,  14582@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2022 04:53:05 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Neither do I, so there's something else at work here.
> 
> I failed to find a recipe in half an hour and gave up for now - instead
> I found one for a very similar case of unexpected auto-scrolling that
> only appears when the new feature is turned on.  Also seems to depend on
> the buffer contents.  Maybe it is related and a fix fixes the other
> thing, too.
> 
> emacs -Q
> 1 C-h i
> 2 move point to the beginning of one of the last visible lines.
>   no scrolling happens (good).
> 3 M-: (setq make-window-start-visible t) RET  => *info* buffer scrolled
> 
> If you scroll back so that (point-min) becomes visible and repeat step
> 2 any activation of the minibuffer, e.g. just hitting M-: or C-x k,
> scrolls the *info* buffer.
> 
> Doesn't happen in C-h n.  Dunno what makes the difference - the fact
> that *info* is narrowed or that different fonts are used.
> 
> Ah - wait, now I can reproduce the other thing, too:
> 
> M-:
> (progn
>   (setq-default display-time-interval 1.)
>   (setq display-time-format "%H:%M:%S")
>   (setq-default make-window-start-visible t)
>   (display-time-mode +1))
> RET
> C-h i
> [down] [down] not too fast ... until it scrolls

You asked for it.  Info buffers have a 'display' property whose value
is a string at the beginning of each node, and that 'display' property
makes the window's start point invisible.  So whenever Emacs can make
the window-start visible, it does.

IOW, here you have one example why the default way of handling
"hidden" window-start point is sometimes exactly what we want.

Bottom line: I advise against making this the default.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-09 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-09  9:13 bug#14582: 24.3.50.1; Strange overlay behavior, when window-start is inside an overlay E Sabof
2013-06-09 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-09 17:37   ` E Sabof
2013-06-09 17:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-09 18:16       ` E Sabof
2013-06-09 18:25         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-09 18:40           ` E Sabof
2013-06-09 18:49             ` E Sabof
2022-01-30 21:37             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-31  0:36               ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-01-31 14:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-31 18:42                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-01-31 19:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-01  3:03                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-01 18:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02  1:12                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-02  3:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02  4:02                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-02 12:31                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-03 17:40                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-04  1:37                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-04 13:56                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  2:54                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-06 10:28                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-08  0:29                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-08  3:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-08  4:05                                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-08 12:23                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-09  0:20                                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-09  3:53                                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-09 13:47                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-02-10  1:07                                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-10  6:15                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-11  4:42                                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-11  8:46                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-12  0:25                                                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-12  7:28                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-12 22:53                                                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-13 11:43                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27  3:54                                                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-27  8:08                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27 23:19                                                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-28 13:10                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-31 15:30                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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