From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
Cc: 50143@debbugs.gnu.org, rameshnedunchezian@outlook.com
Subject: bug#50143: 28.0.50; Various issues with `tamil-itrans' input method
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:36:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wnhu1zob.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874k509w4k.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:31:31 +0530)
> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
> Cc: Ramesh Nedunchezian <rameshnedunchezian@outlook.com>,
> 50143@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:31:31 +0530
>
> >> 3. `indian-make-hash` ALWAYS installs translation for decimal digits
> >> 0-9. Tamil decimal digits are NOT used at all i.e., it is not even
> >> taught in Schools in the state of TamilNadu, India. So, I wanted a
> >> way NOT to insall the translation for digits. I suggest one of the
> >> following:
> >>
> >> - Change signature of `(indian-make-hash TABLE TRANS-TABLE)' to
> >> `(indian-make-hash TABLE TRANS-TABLE &optional
> >> DONT-INSTALL-NATIVE-DIGITS)' or some such thing.
> >
> > This change of the API is acceptable, so please propose a patch along
> > these lines.
> >
>
> I wanted to send a patch so I took a quick look at ind-util.el, and ISTM
> that the hashtable `indian-tml-itrans-v5-hash' is calculated just once?
> Unfortunately, I don't understand the dances in ind-util.el,
> lisp/leim/indian.el, etc. so I'm afraid I cannot be of any help here.
>
> [ It should be a simple change if we don't make it a defcustom AFAIU. ]
>
> >> `indian-make-hash' is used by many indic scripts, so I am not
> >> sure if other indian language users would have a need for
> >> inputting native decimal digits. I--as a representative of Tamil
> >> speakers--can say that we don't need that ON by default.
> >
> > We can use this for Tamil only for now, and wait for users of other
> > languages to chime in.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> As a native Tamil speaker, I can attest that contemporary text uses the
> Arabic numerals (in fact, Tamil digits are mentioned as a matter of fact
> in schools). I'm not sure about the situation in Sri Lanka, tho.
It sounds like a better way forward would be to define a separate
input method, so that the existing input method is preserved and can
be used if someone wants the current transliterations.
So my suggestions would be:
1. For your items 1 and 3, just copy indian-tml-base-table to a new
variable, modify it to include the two missing characters and
replace the digits with nil, add a new variable similar to
indian-tml-itrans-v5-hash, and compute its value like we do with
indian-tml-itrans-v5-hash, but using the new table instead of
indian-tml-base-table. Then make a new input method, called, say,
tamil-itrans-alt, which would use the new hash variable instead of
indian-tml-itrans-v5-hash. Submit these changes as patches to
lisp/language/ind-util.el and lisp/leim/quail/indian.el.
2. For your item 2, submit a patch that fixes the docstring of the
relevant input methods.
Would that work for you? Can you prepare such patches?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-16 17:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-21 9:25 bug#50143: 28.0.50; Various issues with `tamil-itrans' input method Ramesh Nedunchezian
2021-08-22 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-15 12:01 ` Visuwesh
2022-02-16 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-02-17 2:14 ` Visuwesh
2022-02-17 6:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-17 10:53 ` Visuwesh
2022-02-17 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-18 1:01 ` Visuwesh
2022-02-18 7:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-13 5:51 ` Visuwesh
2022-03-13 5:59 ` Visuwesh
2022-03-13 6:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-13 7:16 ` Visuwesh
2022-03-13 8:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-13 9:01 ` Visuwesh
2022-03-13 9:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
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