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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>
Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, mail@daniel-mendler.de,
	philipk@posteo.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	62009@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#62009: 29.0.60; Emacs crashes on setf symbol-name
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:50:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83wn3ozuyn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87edpx56xm.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Augusto Stoffel on Fri,  10 Mar 2023 09:47:33 +0100)

> From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>
> Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,  michael_heerdegen@web.de,
>   mail@daniel-mendler.de,  monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,  62009@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:47:33 +0100
> 
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 at 09:45, Augusto Stoffel wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 at 09:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >
> >>> Is it not possible to detect this before the illegal memory access, and
> >>> raise a signal in Emacs Lisp?
> >>
> >> It won't be easy, if at all possible.  And I'm not sure we even want
> >> to do that.  What would be the purpose of supporting such a use of
> >> Emacs?
> >
> > What is the purpose of supporting mutation of symbol names in general?
> >
> >   (aset (symbol-name 'find-file) 1 ?o)
> >   (fboundp 'find-file)
> >   => nil
> >
> > This one doesn't crash Emacs, but wreaks havoc, maybe in even worse
> > ways.
> 
> (To clarify, I think this of course should raise a signal.)

Why bother?  Emacs is not in the business of preventing Lisp
programmers from shooting themselves in the foot, certainly not when
that incurs runtime overhead, even a small one.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-10 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-06 19:26 bug#62009: 29.0.60; Emacs crashes on setf symbol-name Daniel Mendler
2023-03-07  4:40 ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-07 15:45 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-07 17:08   ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-07 17:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-09 21:11       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-10  7:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10  8:45           ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-10  8:47             ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-10 11:50               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-03-10 12:00                 ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 12:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 12:45                     ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 12:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 13:08                         ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 15:02                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 15:16                     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-11 15:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-18 22:46                         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-19  6:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-19 21:20                             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 11:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10  9:40           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 10:31             ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 10:59               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 11:09                 ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 11:23                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-10 12:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:30                   ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-10 11:36                     ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 12:13                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 12:24                         ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 22:01                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-10 11:57                     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 12:12                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 13:19                       ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-11  7:07                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13  8:07                       ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-13  8:28                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13 11:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 11:50                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13 11:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:59               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-11  7:07               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-11  7:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 18:56           ` Philip Kaludercic

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