From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63757: 29.0.91 order of package paths changed: random old versions of packages in load-path Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 11:54:08 +0300 Message-ID: <83wn0j621b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y1l7gzqw.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilcb2p1l.fsf@posteo.net> <87sfb8g85v.fsf@posteo.net> <83a5xf7pi5.fsf@gnu.org> <831qir7isf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37411"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, 63757@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=95=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=91=D0=BE=D0=B9=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 04 10:54:11 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q5jV4-0009VJ-Ei for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:54:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5jUx-00051M-Kw; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 04:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5jUw-00051E-6t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 04:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5jUv-0008Of-VR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 04:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5jUv-0002s5-R6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 04:54:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 08:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63757 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 63757-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63757.168586881310998 (code B ref 63757); Sun, 04 Jun 2023 08:54:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63757) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2023 08:53:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44974 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5jUS-0002rK-Or for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 04:53:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52424) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5jUP-0002r5-MT for 63757@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 04:53:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5jUI-0008MI-8b; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 04:53:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=/I3RJ6VDe+WSA+QYfCi9Ul7PwSuW7OkgzqMXJ3XiKf0=; b=FikEXyZ91ci1v9tNKnqc nFdKuZT7H3Mhgz6Onvo23+W9tRLxinfZzo2e/gsa650umYtaTvgDPDuedec0gyGT7eIoZ54Ygp/ui pJA8OuKL+jo/JQxjJJY2ViAD4wSeRX38tAU1UXfGK/vRWdPBBFgADuWdCjacjG+c0D+UZCUdQBsf4 QUPtnlvHTbbit0za4PnEqSaVAF9pSTna0KJmbfaZTfZkWVB/M8UxYb8kxqOufUl/0m5zTSfGnRmWS FnLIATknQH57PjrrpUPdwZP8DyCM3E0Hh44vw3g58SS6D/lHK6WVARa95IefDJj58BfN6WySHu7zp YrG1NyXndPO0Zw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5jUA-0007rG-Lp; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 04:53:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=95=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=91=D0=BE=D0=B9=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2?= on Sun, 4 Jun 2023 18:43:13 +1000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:262922 Archived-At: > From: Евгений Бойков > Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 18:43:13 +1000 > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, philipk@posteo.net, 63757@debbugs.gnu.org > > > I wonder how come this issue never came up until now, in all the time > > since commit fb87d500, 9 months ago? What are you, Евгений, do that > > bumps into this issue, that other people don't do? Or does this > > affect only very specific packages? > > I moved my everyday working emacs instance to 29.0.91 and got almost 2% completely broken > packages. > I rarely delete really old versions from my ~/.emacs.d/elpa. > If your package-user-dir is cleaned more often, you may not notice that your loaded packages have > slightly different old versions. > This can affect any package if it has few versions. So you are saying that other people mostly delete old versions from ~/.emacs.d/elpa/, and that's why this problem was not reported until now, is that right? What are our recommendations, if any, for cleaning up old versions of ELPA packages?