From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#68246: 30.0.50; Add non-TS mode as extra parent of TS modes Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 21:57:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83wmsjppih.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83edeww73j.fsf@gnu.org> <83o7dzvrmf.fsf@gnu.org> <838r53vlo5.fsf@gnu.org> <831qavvcbo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bk9wq9ho.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12639"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 68246@debbugs.gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, joaotavora@gmail.com To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 08 20:58:14 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rMvlG-00038Y-EB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 20:58:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMvl0-0003Jz-4w; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 14:57:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMvky-0003Iu-J7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 14:57:56 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMvkx-0001aZ-EC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 14:57:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rMvl3-0006UA-OU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 14:58:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 19:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68246 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 68246-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68246.170474385124889 (code B ref 68246); Mon, 08 Jan 2024 19:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 68246) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2024 19:57:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37673 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rMvkZ-0006TM-E9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 14:57:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39622) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rMvkY-0006TB-F4 for 68246@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 14:57:30 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMvkM-0001QW-PU; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 14:57:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=dYxZgJMA31DJiocDRjlKOgK95Adw25qRdyoZG4wjRcQ=; b=qs+n6o3ztF8h BwNMXcKyk8V2yLS14A7Z8a/0VWA3F2Pfktt3aAqWqtM4jF+WLgfHdLeEUmMhwQ0yyN9aiefXDujRW P5Y2JrQ7KJM88vTLbW0EMzTKa6fOmyw829UwHZ9aUIsQegvht46MFuEgQoO0IqdnvH9ewasUZJm4n PzzPqascHA3eSFDexvDW4AYn0J5pLXuz00lBjQXgOKbUZ6Exa2HV8Ykbe1xfMdmz0MvSbyUHOYZv4 BGPjvKVj94Go/yaFIbVfzsPGBkBm6JeHF2pcmWjkZCRdFi9H/DQXbwkCtcO0aBkANSX/j2KlzoUhA 6cV0ySzeDr1QlvcindJSnA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 8 Jan 2024 11:18:41 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:277577 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2024 11:18:41 -0800 > Cc: 68246@debbugs.gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com, joaotavora@gmail.com > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Please don't call it "language". That'd be confusing. LSP is about > > programming languages, so "language" is natural there. But in Emacs, > > a major mode is more general than that. For example, it is not > > unthinkable to consider mail-mode to be the extra-parent of > > message-mode (or vice versa) -- but what is the "language" in that > > case? > > Isn't the language for such modes in this paradigm just the empty set? No. The "language" there is "text", except that it's silly to call that "language".