From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9296: 24.0.50; next-line/prev-line on lines with images Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 22:33:22 +0300 Message-ID: <83vctzvldp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8739h5c9nq.fsf@gnus.org> <837h6gwjfs.fsf@gnu.org> <83zkjcutxv.fsf@gnu.org> <83wregue9b.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1313350479 10565 80.91.229.12 (14 Aug 2011 19:34:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9296@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 14 21:34:35 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QsgSA-0002bf-8F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:34:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56485 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsgS9-00020n-PA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:34:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56467) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsgS4-0001tV-Ge for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:34:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsgS0-0002ea-Jy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:34:28 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53346) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsgS0-0002eW-HL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:34:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QsgTZ-0000m6-UC; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:36:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9296 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9296-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9296.13133505102914 (code B ref 9296); Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9296) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2011 19:35:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QsgSi-0000kv-5D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:35:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QsgSf-0000km-Kd for 9296@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:35:06 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LPX00M00NJXGH00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 9296@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 22:33:25 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.97.107]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LPX00G6ZNNMJJZ1@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 22:33:24 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:36:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:50073 Archived-At: > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 9296@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:00:28 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Thanks for the test case. This problem exists in Emacs 23 as well, so > > it's not new. I suggest to file a separate bug for it. For now, > > being not worse than Emacs 23.3 is good enough for me. > > Hm. Are you sure? Yes. I've tested with Emacs 23.3 before sending that message. > I haven't seen this behaviour before, I think, and it's odd that I > haven't noticed, since I'm using images heavily in several modes... Which behavior are you talking about? The one that still exists with the current trunk, or the one I fixed today? > > In general, the DWIM-ish operation of next/previous-line, especially > > its ideas of what exactly is the goal column, is darn hard to get > > right, and it certainly has its surprises. If you look at the > > convoluted code in move_it_in_display_line_to, you will understand > > why. > > Perhaps it has something to do with the default change for the > visible/logical next-line movement thing which I can never remember > what's called? No, it was always convoluted. No matter whether visual-line-mode is on or off.