From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23689: Daemon-mode on Windows - "w32-initialized" is set too early Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:47:20 +0300 Message-ID: <83vb1acv3r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8337otw9m0.fsf@gnu.org> <83shwtusoj.fsf@gnu.org> <83porxuhfo.fsf@gnu.org> <83k2hrelwy.fsf@gnu.org> <83inxbeh1o.fsf@gnu.org> <83fusfdvuh.fsf@gnu.org> <8360taec1z.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1466005650 21170 80.91.229.3 (15 Jun 2016 15:47:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23689@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Moore Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 15 17:47:19 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD2E-000355-KE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:47:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43089 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD2D-0005bX-TE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:47:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD22-0005XW-BJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD1y-0004X1-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:47:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:58327) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD1y-0004Wk-29 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD1x-0007Fu-Tu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:47:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23689-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23689.146600559727848 (code B ref 23689); Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:47:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23689) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2016 15:46:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42430 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD1Z-0007F5-5s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:46:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33632) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD1V-0007Eo-L0 for 23689@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:46:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD1N-0004Ko-7F for 23689@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:46:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49666) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD1N-0004KV-3l; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2015 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bDD1L-0002Za-BK; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:46:23 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Paul Moore on Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:26:40 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:119587 Archived-At: > From: Paul Moore > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:26:40 +0100 > Cc: 23689@debbugs.gnu.org > > 2. If I have to define a fontset using the name of a font that's on > the system, how do I obtain such a font name in a cross-platform way? I suggested a way of doing that in my previous message. > Am I allowed to reuse the font name that was used for the default > fontset? Sure, why not? > So - to summarise. There seems to be a lot of complexity here, in > achieving what feels like it ought to be a pretty straightforward > requirement. It's not straightforward, it's pretty advanced stuff. Most users don't mess with fontsets, and if they want to customize fonts, they know their favorite fonts in advance. > On the other hand, there's clearly some issues around the idea of a > hook that runs "once the display system is ready" - spacemacs' > current hack has problems, and so does any alternative approach I've > tried. But if there genuinely isn't a good hook we can use (and no > likelihood of one being added) then I guess I have to live with > that. The problem is that "hook that runs once the display system is ready" is not well defined. "The display system" includes several components, and the order and timing of their setup do not necessarily fit your specific needs. > I do appreciate all of the help you've given - and I completely > respect the fact that you don't want to get sucked into what's > essentially a spacemacs issue. But if you have any further suggestions > on how something like this *should* be handled, I'd appreciate them. Sorry, I don't know enough about spacemacs to tell anything else.