From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24520: 25.1.50; calccard.tex has somewhat unclear licensing Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 17:07:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83vawt1zay.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wpi2l9yp.fsf@Sam-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <83h98keben.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476540510 10093 195.159.176.226 (15 Oct 2016 14:08:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: naesten@gmail.com, 24520@debbugs.gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 15 16:08:25 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPdB-0008VP-2U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 16:08:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52025 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPdC-0003za-S0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPd7-0003zF-3Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:08:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPd5-0002JK-3q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:08:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53822) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPd4-0002JE-Vv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:08:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPd4-0000ob-R4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24520 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24520-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24520.14765404443068 (code B ref 24520); Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24520) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2016 14:07:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60009 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPcS-0000nP-3V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:07:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53718) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPcQ-0000nE-Mm for 24520@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:07:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPcI-0001zs-6E for 24520@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:07:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46050) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPcI-0001zN-2x; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:07:14 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4559 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bvPc8-0006H2-MY; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:07:05 -0400 In-reply-to: <83h98keben.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:38:56 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:124511 Archived-At: Ping! Richard, I need your guidance as to how to proceed with this issue. > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:38:56 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 24520@debbugs.gnu.org > > > From: naesten@gmail.com > > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 14:58:22 -0400 > > > > > > Evaluate: > > > > (find-file (expand-file-name "refcards/calccard.tex" data-directory)) > > > > Now search for "Copyright" in the resulting buffer. The first occurance > > is as part of the usual GPLv3 boilerplate, just a bit further into the > > file than is usual. The second occurance precees a somewhat less clear > > license grant: > > > > > \def\copyrightnotice{ > > > \vskip 1ex plus 2 fill\begingroup\small > > > \centerline{Copyright \copyright\ \year\ Free Software Foundation, Inc.} > > > \centerline{designed by Dave Gillespie and Stephen Gildea,} > > > \centerline{for GNU Emacs Calc.} > > > > > > Permission is granted to make and distribute copies of > > > this card provided the copyright notice and this permission notice > > > are preserved on all copies. > > > > > > %For copies of the GNU Emacs Calc manual, write to the Free Software > > > %Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, > > > %MA 02110-1301, USA. > > > % > > > \endgroup} > > > > So, we have two license grants that'd seem to apply to this file, > > > > (a) the usual GPLv3-or-later boilerplate > > > > (b) a brief, custom grant that doesn't explicitly permit modification > > > > Also note that only (b) appears on the actual card; I don't think > > there's even enough room on the card to fit (a). > > > > Its not really clear what the licensing of this file is meant to be, but > > I think it would be simplest to: > > > > (a) drop the GPLv3 licensing on this file, or explicitly use a dual > > license/GPL exception to unambiguously permit distribution with > > just the brief grant > > > > (b) add "in modified or unmodified form" to, and possibly remove "and > > this permission notice" from, said brief grant > > > > (c) mention the filename "calccard.tex" so people recieving it > > out-of-context can find the source easily > > > > (Aside: the commented-out FSF address seems kind of useless nowadays...) > > Richard, could you please tell what should be done about this issue? > > TIA