From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24625: 26.0.50; Local variables list at beginning of a file Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:21:30 +0200 Message-ID: <83v9rm61b9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <84int57upu.fsf@gmail.com> <87pni3vzzh.fsf@marxist.se> <847e44gir8.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="232282"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 24625@debbugs.gnu.org To: Marco Wahl Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 14 14:22:23 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iVF4p-000yES-4l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:22:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iVF4l-0002vU-VV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:22:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59857) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iVF4V-0002vH-51 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:22:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iVF4U-0006bM-8p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:22:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52283) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iVF4U-0006bH-5p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVF4T-0007ML-Vi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:22:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 13:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24625 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 24625-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24625.157373771728278 (code B ref 24625); Thu, 14 Nov 2019 13:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24625) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2019 13:21:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32871 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVF4O-0007M2-Hq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:21:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50744) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iVF4M-0007Ln-Np for 24625@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:21:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50340) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iVF4H-0006RQ-58; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:21:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1681 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iVF4D-0000q0-I8; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:21:47 -0500 In-reply-to: <847e44gir8.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Marco Wahl on Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:42:19 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171585 Archived-At: > From: Marco Wahl > Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:42:19 +0100 > Cc: 24625@debbugs.gnu.org > > For people who want to keep the first line short this feature could > help. > > Possibly of interest: > > My motivation asking for this feature was local variables at the bottom > of outline/Org files. In my experience for those kind of files, which > typically consist of some trees, it is rather difficult to keep > something (here the local variables) at the bottom. Too easily a > further tree gets appended at the end of the file or the trees in the > file get sorted. On the other hand the top of those kind of files stays > relatively static. If this is for Org, perhaps Org could have its own private feature? In general, having the variables at the beginning will get in the way of reading the file's contents by humans: you will first need to skip the variables' section and wonder what does that do there.