From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 41321@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#41321: 27.0.91; Emacs aborts due to invalid pseudovector objects
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 19:32:46 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83v9kdl6xd.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBfee4rmzoxZTGb8Qpqn=zk+abewrXGWUw0inxG+_sntYg@mail.gmail.com> (message from Pip Cet on Sat, 30 May 2020 13:29:33 +0000)
> From: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 13:29:33 +0000
> Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 41321@debbugs.gnu.org,
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>
> > > > So this alignment requirement is only due to pthreads being used?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what you're asking. Obviously there are systems on which
> > > unaligned accesses will fault or be very slow indeed, so we need to
> > > make sure, say, pure space allocations are aligned somehow. That
> > > requires a LISP_ALIGNMENT of 8. Everything beyond that is only for
> > > performance, pthreads, and SIMD types.
> >
> > If the system guarantees 4-byte alignment from malloc (and/or a
> > similar alignment of the runtime C stack), then using that doesn't
> > trigger problems related to unaligned accesses, right? So let me
> > rephrase: why isn't 4-byte alignment "good enough" for us on systems
> > where malloc and the runtime stack are guaranteed to be thus aligned?
>
> (The runtime stack isn't relevant, as far as I can tell, since we walk
> that in 4-byte steps on such systems anyway.)
I think it might be relevant for stack-based Lisp objects (if we keep
requiring that Lisp objects are 8-byte aligned on 32-bit platforms).
> You're correct that on such a system, we could get away with a
> LISP_ALIGNMENT of 4, but a LISP_ALIGNMENT of 8 wouldn't hurt either.
That's for sure. I just wondered why did we start requiring 8-byte
alignment back when we did. Perhaps someone still remembers the
reason.
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Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-16 10:33 bug#41321: 27.0.91; Emacs aborts due to invalid pseudovector objects Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 16:33 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-16 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 10:56 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-17 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 7:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 8:35 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-22 11:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 12:55 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-22 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 11:47 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-22 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 12:39 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-22 12:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 14:04 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-22 14:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 14:40 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-22 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <CAOqdjBdpU4U1NqErNH0idBmUxNeE3fL=2=KKpo9kbCM3DhW5gA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-05-23 17:58 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-23 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-23 22:41 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-23 23:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-22 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-29 9:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-29 10:00 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-23 23:54 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-24 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-24 15:00 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-24 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-24 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-24 18:03 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-24 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-24 19:40 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-25 2:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-25 6:40 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-25 11:28 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-25 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-25 15:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-26 3:39 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-26 3:33 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-26 6:18 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-26 7:51 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-26 8:27 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-26 6:46 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-26 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-26 22:49 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-27 15:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-27 16:58 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-27 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-27 17:53 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-27 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-27 18:39 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-28 2:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-28 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-28 7:41 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-28 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-28 14:28 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-28 16:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-29 9:43 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-29 18:31 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-29 18:37 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-29 19:32 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-29 19:37 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-29 20:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-29 20:40 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 5:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 17:52 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 18:17 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 14:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-27 17:57 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-27 18:39 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-27 18:56 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-28 1:21 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-28 6:31 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-28 7:47 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-28 8:11 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-28 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-28 19:33 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-29 6:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-29 20:24 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-29 21:01 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 5:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 7:19 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 11:06 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 11:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 13:29 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-05-30 16:36 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 18:04 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 18:12 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 18:45 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 18:39 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 18:57 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 19:06 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 21:27 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 21:49 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 22:23 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 22:54 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 16:31 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 17:06 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 18:12 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 19:14 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-30 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 22:18 ` Paul Eggert
2020-05-31 15:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-01 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 14:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-27 14:45 ` Pip Cet
2020-09-27 15:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-27 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 16:53 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-30 5:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-29 8:25 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-25 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-25 17:41 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-24 19:00 ` Andy Moreton
2020-05-24 19:09 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-29 10:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-29 10:34 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-29 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-29 11:47 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-29 13:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-29 14:19 ` Pip Cet
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