From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43323: Rename cua-mode to something better? Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:56:47 +0300 Message-ID: <83v9gkhkcw.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6304"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 43323@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 11 08:57:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGczf-0001W8-7x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 08:57:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44910 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGcze-0002OF-6G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 02:57:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39568) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGczX-0002Lj-6p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 02:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58845) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGczW-0005kE-Sf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 02:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kGczW-0008E9-SQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 02:57:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 06:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43323 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43323-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43323.159980740731598 (code B ref 43323); Fri, 11 Sep 2020 06:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43323) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2020 06:56:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42157 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kGczH-0008Da-Kf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 02:56:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35566) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kGczG-0008DP-Fm for 43323@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 02:56:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48030) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGczB-0005is-6P; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 02:56:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4612 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGczA-0006xK-GY; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 02:56:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:41:18 -0700) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:187795 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:41:18 -0700 > > I have only ever heard the term CUA in the context of Emacs. I imagine > that most new users, who is likely to be the target audience, will have > no earthly idea what it means. Only a very small subset of users will > be familiar enough with UI design standards to immediately recognize it. > > The problem of course is to come up with a better name. How does > `familiar-keybindings-mode' sound? Or even `modern-keybindings-mode'? Please review the issue in its entirety: the name of the command, its doc string, the text displayed in the respective menu item, the text in the user manual. Since you are talking about discoverability, we must consider all of these, because the command's name is not the only method of discovering it, not even the most important one. Thanks.